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[PUZZLE] Axons: Literal
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vpisteve
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[PUZZLE] Axons: Literal

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The literal thread (might not even be necessary) is for those who believe that we are just suppose to show up at these locations when the Axons "Go Hot." This theory has pretty much been shot down since some of the locations have been found to be on private property, in front of the Sears Tower (think: a group of online dweebs gathering w/ their GPS en masse when the countdown ends... don't think the city of Chicago's gonna like that), and even one in a forest. However, I don't think this theory can be thrown out completely, as it hasn't been completely disproven.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 9:07 pm
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Grout
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Hey thanks vpisteve!

I hope something like this will work - and not just add to the clutter. Thanks for listening to us. All I ask now is that we stay ON TOPIC in these threads - and we stop the creation of any new threads without Mod approval. Maybe even lock the current ones?

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No problem.

BTW though, I need to take issue with this theory being shot down. On the contrary, I think it's more likely than ever, based on today's emails.

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At six in the freaking morning, man?

I love these games, but uh, MAN.

Oh, man.

*whimper*

For my poor non-morning-person brain's sake, I hope you guys are wrong. Wink

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SO I thought I'd check out the one coordinate that we knew the Queen had corrected:
37.8669 -122.2588

Mapquest by GPS

Switchboard.Com Nearby businesses for "close" street address

It is at or near the intersection of Channing Way and Telegraph Ave in Berkeley, CA. There's a Coffee House and Music shop. Either would be a suitable "event location"... I'd hoped to find something more concrete at the "corrected coordinate". Razz Anyone else see anything interesting?
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Speaker wrote:
SO I thought I'd check out the one coordinate that we knew the Queen had corrected:
37.8669 -122.2588
Anyone else see anything interesting?


Yep. Well, actually nope. The actual address according to Wishi-san's list is a used ("vintage") clothing store called Mars Mercantile (I posted about this earlier in the really long axon thread on about page 12 Smile ).

I go by there about twice a day during the week. There is a pay phone on the side of the store. There's also a signboard (like a movie marquee sign but smaller) that usually has some kind of pithy statement on it, but it's blank right now (hmmmm, I'm thinking). There's a cookie store across the street, a big CD store...a ton of other stores. No Chinese restaurant right there (of course there are a million near enough). But nothing clicks beewise.

I have been considering how early I will have to get up and how painful it will be to be there at 6 am, but I'm hoping I can manage it. By the way, if there is a man in bee suit handing out Halo2 coupons and I get one, we can have a give-away contest or something Smile

EDIT: I looked more carefully. There is a Chinese restaurant a few stores down from the corner, for those who are keeping track of Chinese restaurants.

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vpisteve wrote:
I need to take issue with this theory being shot down. On the contrary, I think it's more likely than ever, based on today's emails.


So why 220 locations, then? It's obvious the majority of the people playing this game can't/won't physically turn up on the date. Why not 5, or 10? It would certainly require a hell of a lot less effort to organize, and, guaranteed, whatever happens at the points on the 24th will get back to these forums within a few hours.

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Grout
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551 wrote:
vpisteve wrote:
I need to take issue with this theory being shot down. On the contrary, I think it's more likely than ever, based on today's emails.


So why 220 locations, then? It's obvious the majority of the people playing this game can't/won't physically turn up on the date. Why not 5, or 10? It would certainly require a hell of a lot less effort to organize, and, guaranteed, whatever happens at the points on the 24th will get back to these forums within a few hours.


Yeah, I imagine that probably at least 75% of these sites will be unvisited on the 24th... Just a lonely guy in a bee costume standing in a field............

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South Dakota

After being somewhat boggled by the number of posts on the AXON puzzle, I had no idea where to put this.

This thread looks to be the place.

I was wondering if anyone had any plans to try to investigate the Seneca, South Dakota point. If no one else takes it up, I might. It's still a long ways away. But, well, if something Bungie or ARG related did happen in my lonely, lonely state, I'd like to be in on it.

I'm a little worried about the terra server image of the coordinate though. It looks like it's in the middle of someone's property, and I'm not going to tresspass, not in South Dakota. Still, there's a road nearby. I could head out there and park it on August 24 and hope no one has any reason to call the cops on me for loitering or suspicious behavior or whatever.

That'd be a hard one to explain.

Still, I think it might be work it. Since this coordinate is in a rural area, we might have less city noise to obscure the signal. Just a thought.

I'd like to hear some of those with experience at ARGing or Geocaching.

Luke P.

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What time on the 24th?

I was thinking - since I have one of the locations near me - that IF we were to show up to the locations on Aug 24, what time would we show up? It is 6am LOCAL time? Texas time? Pacific time?

I would guess that UNLESS we come up with another solution to the coordinates by then that visiting the sites at that time would be a good strategy. It would only cost some sleep... Smile

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Here's my last post about this, since nobody seems to think there may actually be a realworld event at these locations, despite previous ARGs having done the same thing (ARM rallies and BMW game, anyone?) Rolling Eyes

Friday's update just makes the spec stronger imo. First, the fact that the wrong coordinate was said to have led into the sea means that they're leading to a real location, not a virtual location. The update also indicates that there are other coordinates that are wrong, which would explain the ones that lead to the middle of nowhere. The vast majority lead to populated areas that are easily accessible.

Second, the fact that the coordinate are specific to the .000xth degree tells me that they do in fact mean a physical location in the real world. If this were merely a numeric or graphic puzzle, the PMs wouldn't have been that pinpoint, they could've just as easily made a puzzle to the .0xth degree.

So in summary. this is not a puzzle, it's not a plot device for something that's going to occur in virtual locations. Somehow, something will be transmitted (as tagged in the source code) to these actual, physical locations, something that will make Melissa "wide awake and physical."

Again, I have no clue what they're going to do to pull this off, but there's just no other explanation yet. The Friday update clarified things a little, and my bet is the Tuesday update will clarify things even more.

Call me a crackpot, I don't care. Very Happy But I have yet to see anything in any other threads that convinces me otherwise, and I've seen my share of coordinates puzzles, believe me. Live events and geocaches have been done before, and they'll be done again. This is nothing new, although it may definitely rasie the bar quite a bit.
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Crackpot!

Ahem, anyhow, I agree with that crackpot up there. I only wish I could be at one of the locations.

Instead, you 'merkins will have to get to the locations in your bee costumes with a mobile/cell phone to someone in chat!
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John Incognito
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Maybe we're all right.

Not sure in which thread this belongs to, but it has some relevance to this one.. so here it goes.

What if the GPS coordinates have more then one meaning? They could be graphical and literal. A good portion of them form right angles when placed on a map and might be directions to one of the locations planned to actually have a event.

Another thought is that: Sure if the real world locations don't mean anything and they are meant to be a graphics puzzle would it really hurt the puzzle either way whether or not they are to .0xth degree .000xth degree? Making the coodinates more specific doesn't really move them around too much, and adds a possible red herring by making them seem like the real location matters. It doesn't really rule out graphical/literal either way. It does make numerical seem less likely though. :\
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Quote:

the fact that the coordinate are specific to the .000xth degree tells me that they do in fact mean a physical location in the real world. If this were merely a numeric or graphic puzzle, the PMs wouldn't have been that pinpoint, they could've just as easily made a puzzle to the .0xth degree.


So I don't think you're a crackpot, but my only thought on this is how the PMs expect people to locate something so exactly. I mean, most people don't have GPS units sitting around the house. (At least, most people I know.) I guess I'm not really sure how specific these locations are--are they off by 5 feet, 10 feet, or 30 feet in any direction? I guess if something physical shows up at the locations, it will have to be pretty obvious, since people are going to have to notice it.

Not sure if this even makes sense, but I'm just thinking out loud. I went to four of the Seattle locations (there are six within the same square mile in Seattle), and none of them had anything remarkable, except all being in very public locations with lots of traffic. Maybe something painted on the sidewalk or something, like IBM did a few years back?

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It seems like the people who think that nothing is going to actually happen at these coordinates believe they are "smarter" than everyone. And of course the people who live in different countries and are upset that they didn't get cool coordinates. Cool
Obviously vpisteve is a rather intelligent, and very experienced person with this sort of thing.
I thought from the first day the coordinates were posted that there was going to be something happening. That probably came from my Halo fanboy side, but it does make the most sense since I've read that previous games did the same thing. I've also given thought to the other ideas that they are not literal, and they also make some sense, but I would rather have fun going on a little drive and seeing if something happens.
That just means that I have to get a digital camera and a laptop with WiFi from someone I know.
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