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Kaliel
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Yep, I got something similar. And as you say, 11 and 6 are basically interchangeable because they are the same size. 12 and 13 are also interchangeable.

The two big questions next are. Which orientation is right? (assuming there is a right one)

If this puzzle idea is right (and it fits awfully neatly together if it's not right) how do we tell which of the interchangeable pieces go where? I'm looking at the original images to see if there's any indication how they might fit together better, but so far no luck.

I'm wondering about the grainy image of the pictures. If these numbers fit together into a pattern, then maybe the images, when assembled correctly in the right orientation and position, form a picture?

I have junk for image editing software. Let me download gimp or something and see if I can do anything.

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 8:45 pm
GuestUser17
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Final Layout

Looking closely at the lines between the images the pairs had to be flipped from my first attempt. The yellow squares only have one possible position. Now, how do we get a frequency out of that.
 JARR - number grid final.png Description Filesize 71.2KB Viewed 24 Time(s)

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 9:41 pm
GuestUser17
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Here are all the original pieces rotated and aligned. Since Terahertz signal frequencies will be around 1,000,000,000,000Hz that is 13 digits and we have 13 columns in the picture. I submitted the following list of frequencies based on the picture below:

3,087,911,422,903
3,538,999,999,999
3,400,912,222,000
4,496,014,152,590
952,504,106,944
6,450,009,621,199
5,901,387,125,600
3,892,141,139
1,321,739,193,541
3,100,000,210,104
1,587,142,991,330
1,837,400,091,821
3,142,785,166,230
3,333,339,333,333
1,608,742,413,986
35,881,963,239

Two are below THz ranges so I crossed them out. The response I got back initially was that there are 3 teams. Searching Reddit I found this - https://m.reddit.com/r/ARG/comments/4tfagb/sleepwalking_journal_arg/
They have been discussing things on Discord - https://discord.gg/9K44d

I was asked to narrow down the choices so I went with 3,333,339,333,333 since it is the same in both directions if the images had been inverted.

The response from Ana was:

:::::We will transmit it to our assets in theater:::::
:::::If you are unsure of accuracy continue decryption and search:::::
 JARR-Black-xx81.png Description Filesize 835.88KB Viewed 40 Time(s)

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 3:08 am
Kaliel
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 GuestUser17 wrote: Here are all the original pieces rotated and aligned. Since Terahertz signal frequencies will be around 1,000,000,000,000Hz that is 13 digits and we have 13 columns in the picture. I submitted the following list of frequencies based on the picture below:

That's bloody brilliant. Nice work!

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:19 am
dustybygones
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Joined: 09 Apr 2016
Posts: 54

Atomic Giant and Cobalt Quarter are the two teams I've heard of. What's the third team? Also, it might be useful in the future if one person from each team posts what they are given for the missions in case the teams are given different data.

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 9:27 am
GuestUser17
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The other group is "Key Aspect." Someone is trying to locate team members on Reddit - https://m.reddit.com/r/ARG/comments/4tjy26/jarr_key_aspect_members/

Did we confirm if Cobalt Quarter received the same message?

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 9:55 am
themightymooker
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Joined: 29 Nov 2015
Posts: 109
Location: Not Quite Lincoln, NE

I am also in Atomic Giant. Looked at this briefly yesterday, then I wake up to find it pretty much solved. Absolutely brilliant work, guys!

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 10:15 am
KimmyGoodwin
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joining this one, but will lurk for now

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 10:42 am
Kaliel
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Posts: 230

Well they tried the frequency we sent.

..and gave us a cliffhanger whether it works or not.

I keep looking at this but the answer GuestUser17 came up with strikes me as the most likely one by far. A second runner up in my mind might be 3,538,999,999,999 if only because that's a lot of 9's in a row and that certainly doesn't feel like a random number.

One other detail has been sticking in my virtual craw the last couple of days. I wanted to put this here in case it's important later.

Night 26, the JARR recruitment video says 'After the death of American President Kennedy in the Mojave Desert in 1961 and subsequent coverup'. I assume they meant the assassination in Dallas was the 'coverup'. However, in our timeline Kennedy was assassinated in November 1963. It took them over 2 years to cover this up?

Is this a just a simple error on their part? Is this an indication that our timeline is vastly different from the in game timeline? Or are they telling us that 'someone' else was running the US for 2 years pretending to be Kennedy?

Maybe 1961 is a clue or major date in this story that will be important later. No idea. Just something to keep an eye on.

Edit: Never mind, looks like it failed.

 Quote: ### Mission Update ### https://youtu.be/6lhtXIptE50 Asset in theater attempted hijacking of engine using the following frequencies: 3,333,339,333,333 33333393333.33 333333933333.3 All attempts failed. Continue decryption efforts. ******OUT******

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 9:18 am
dustybygones
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Posts: 54

Just received an email from Ana, all the frequencies we gave were failures. We have one day left to crack the code.

These were the ones they tried:
3,333,339,333,333
33333393333.33
333333933333.3

Edit: Got beat to it. I'm not sure what else to try, is it the decimal point that might be throwing it off?

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 10:12 am
GuestUser17
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Posts: 812

I'll ask Ana to use the complete list of frequencies as a stop gap until we can narrow it down. The last time I sent it she asked if there were some on that list she should focus on but if we can't figure out the one then maybe it's better than nothing.

Do we have the emails that were sent to the other two teams? I wish Discord had a gallery like GroupMe and others do.

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 10:28 am
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Kaliel
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Posts: 230

Okay, second try. Back to work and back to the research board.

According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terahertz_radiation Terahertz radiation is in the 3 Ghz to 3 THz range. That's a range from

300,000,000,000
to
3,000,000,000,000

Looking back at our original numbers and applying this range we can strike out quite a few as too high or too low.

3,087,911,422,903
3,538,999,999,999
3,400,912,222,000
4,496,014,152,590
952,504,106,944
6,450,009,621,199
5,901,387,125,600
3,892,141,139
1,321,739,193,541
3,100,000,210,104
1,587,142,991,330
1,837,400,091,821
3,142,785,166,230
3,333,339,333,333
1,608,742,413,986
35,881,963,239

Taking us down to:

952,504,106,944
1,321,739,193,541
1,587,142,991,330
1,837,400,091,821
1,608,742,413,986

Unfortunately three of these are in the 'pieces could be in multiple spots' section of the boards.

952,504,106,944 , 1,321,739,193,541 and 1,608,742,413,986 could be different.

951,069,250,444
1,321,935,173,941
1,604,139,874,286

to the list to account for the other possible positions.

They look like they are willing to try multiple frequencies. But would they accept a list of 8? That's a lot. Is there a way we can determine for sure which items go in which positions? That'd help narrow us down.

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 10:28 am
GuestUser17
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Posts: 812

I think the 5 would work. The final image I posted has the dotted lines matching so we can eliminate the 4 pieces that had possible positions and those additional 3 frequencies.

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 10:41 am
Kaliel
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Posts: 230

Ah, I didn't get that the dotted lines matched up so well, that's great news.

edit: Well let's see how that list goes.

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 10:48 am
GuestUser17
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Posts: 812

Somewhere it was mentioned on Discord that Key Aspect has important information but I don't know what that was. I reached out to one of the Reddit users in the hope they can post their email. It might have been the 3,333,339,333,333 picture. I think that may have just been to make sure we had the orientation correct.

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 10:56 am
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