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It isn't ever fully confirmed that TTA is masky and hoodie
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MoonMan
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It isn't ever fully confirmed that TTA is masky and hoodie

Lets face something here, it is never fully confirmed that masky, hoody, and possibly skully make up TTA.

We only have a few videos to go on to prove that they are.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTXncpJFlf0
In this video they show someone (presumably masky) recording Tim transitioning into masky.

It could be Masky who recorded this video, but keep in mind that TTA has the ability to get things that they really shouldn't have. For instance, the video of alex killing someone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhwO6wm76-U

From the parts we saw with Alex, the person never had any sort of camera, yet alex is in clear view in the picture.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bOR9j5Ld74
Here is a video of Brian as masky. In the video, he is portrayed like a deer in the headlights, almost if he didn't expect someone to be there and is thinking about running.

I am probably not the most informed on the whole current situation with cl44, but is it possible that we have not entirely closed the book on TTA, and that they are heavily connected to CL44?

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On the camera issue, you reminded me about this part during the Alex confrontation where we get camera footage neither Tim nor Alex plausibly filmed. I think it was a few frames of their warp-fest the chest cam couldn't possibly have recorded? The angles were totally off. I'm pretty foggy on details but I wonder if Walker's filming methods were used.

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Yes....and it's also confirmed that Tim isn't in clear lakes.......so there you go.

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Re: It isn't ever fully confirmed that TTA is masky and hoodie

MoonMan wrote:
Lets face something here, it is never fully confirmed that masky, hoody, and possibly bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla


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The guy at the Night Mind channel makes a good argument for there having been THREE members of TTA.

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Lytrigian wrote:
The guy at the Night Mind channel makes a good argument for there having been THREE members of TTA.


I'd agree. Troy confirmed Skully was "out there" somewhere so its only logical TTA had 3 members. Besides, he'd offer ample opportunity to connect TTA with CL44 too.

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gennerx wrote:
Yes....and it's also confirmed that Tim isn't in clear lakes.......so there you go.


You keep bringing this up like it's somehow important. Razz

They lied regarding a current project. This is why we can only ever act on in-universe information for speculation. Anything else is a bad idea and always was.

So what we know here is there MAY have been a third member of TTA running around out there somewhere, and there's some fairly solid and educated guesswork to back it up courtesy of Night Mind. I'm not sure if Nick Nocturne is 100% correct, but he put some thought into it.

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ToTheArcanine wrote:
On the camera issue, you reminded me about this part during the Alex confrontation where we get camera footage neither Tim nor Alex plausibly filmed. I think it was a few frames of their warp-fest the chest cam couldn't possibly have recorded? The angles were totally off. I'm pretty foggy on details but I wonder if Walker's filming methods were used.


Troy says on the DVD commentary that this is supposed to be "The Operator's point of view"

Anyway, every time Night Mind references three tothearks he makes some shit up. If I'm wrong, gimme an example. I'm not wrong.

I look at this forum after some time and you're all on about the same nonsense. Let's go over every piece of evidence connecting totheark to Tim and/or Brian.

1) Jay gets an anonymous tip to Brian's abandoned house. totheark is already there and films him (Addition) so presumably totheark tipped him off.

2) totheark tells Jay "come back find me" in Signal before Entry #18. He goes back. Masky tackles him.

3) totheark mentions that Jay is "keeping secrets" in Messages and says "smile for the camera," with the video ending with an image of Tim.

4) In the next entry (19), it's revealed Jay has been secretly filming himself, and that before Messages came out Masky broke into his room. This is another point cause the previous point I'm counting as the image of Tim.

5) In the next totheark video is shows footage from when Masky disappeared with Jay in 19, and it's at Brian house.

6+7) totheark leads Jay back to Brian's house with both videos from between Entry #22 and Entry #23 (Attention, Admission) one which says "awaiting your arrival", the next which is literally from inside Brian's house. Masky is there in Entry #23. Like all the season one references, this can be for Brian or Tim, take your pick.

Cool Tim's in Warning. Even if someone else filmed it, this is de facto support for Hoody, since he's the only one actually shown to have any kind of direct contact with Masky.

9) Tim speaks in the first person in Entry ###### saying Jay will "lead me to the ark"

10) A shadowy figure films Jay in Entry #39, and we see film from the figure's perspective in totheark's Forecast. Entry #41 has Hoody in the forest the next morning.

11) totheark's Intermission has totheark claim he saw Jay in the woods during Entry #40 (or at least, it's a response to 40, it has footage from the same forest areas as in 40, and it says "I SAW YOU") and Entry #41 shows that Hoody was following Jay in 40.

12) Hoody's in Classified.

13) Hoody's silhouette and Masky's mask are both in Sidenote.

14) Masky is in Extraction.

I haven't even gotten to ANY season three references.

15) Decay - I have no idea what the op is talking about with Decay, but let's count this as the totheark-wants-Alex-dead-and-so-do-the-maskies one, because I don't want to count the other million of those.

16+17) observation - the op's reference is also not the connection here. It's not that Tim is probably filming himself, it's that Hoody is later shown, in the next entry (#61) outside the same window, stalking Tim. Also, there was an image preview for this video on Jay's twitter when someone, posting in code and cryptic messages (WHO COULD IT BE :O ) was posting, and then they posted a link to this totheark video after it got posted.

Then, they hacked the aforementioned Entry #61 onto Jay's channel, linked that on Twitter, and then gave Jay his password back. Obviously Hoody filmed, and given what the text says in relation to 62, is probably the one typing up Entry #61. And the text in the video is totheark style. This is almost three reasons but let's just say it's two, because it's so explicitly Hoody screaming "I'M TOTHEARK" it's upsetting.

1Cool New footage of Hoody is in Isolation. It has Hoody looking up and the text says "MEET AGAIN SOON"

19) New footage of Hoody is in Surveilance (combined with old footage of everyone else)

20) Null - no one can solve the rest of it, but we all know part of it decodes to "IM BRIAN" (I want to make another snarky comment here but I can't think of anything good. Make one yourself)
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Re: It isn't ever fully confirmed that TTA is masky and hoodie

Moon Man wrote:
MoonMan wrote:
Lets face something here, it is never fully confirmed that masky, hoody, and possibly bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla


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DHawk314 wrote:
ToTheArcanine wrote:
On the camera issue, you reminded me about this part during the Alex confrontation where we get camera footage neither Tim nor Alex plausibly filmed. I think it was a few frames of their warp-fest the chest cam couldn't possibly have recorded? The angles were totally off. I'm pretty foggy on details but I wonder if Walker's filming methods were used.


Troy says on the DVD commentary that this is supposed to be "The Operator's point of view"

Anyway, every time Night Mind references three tothearks he makes some shit up. If I'm wrong, gimme an example. I'm not wrong.

I look at this forum after some time and you're all on about the same nonsense. Let's go over every piece of evidence connecting totheark to Tim and/or Brian.

1) Jay gets an anonymous tip to Brian's abandoned house. totheark is already there and films him (Addition) so presumably totheark tipped him off.

2) totheark tells Jay "come back find me" in Signal before Entry #18. He goes back. Masky tackles him.

3) totheark mentions that Jay is "keeping secrets" in Messages and says "smile for the camera," with the video ending with an image of Tim.

4) In the next entry (19), it's revealed Jay has been secretly filming himself, and that before Messages came out Masky broke into his room. This is another point cause the previous point I'm counting as the image of Tim.

5) In the next totheark video is shows footage from when Masky disappeared with Jay in 19, and it's at Brian house.

6+7) totheark leads Jay back to Brian's house with both videos from between Entry #22 and Entry #23 (Attention, Admission) one which says "awaiting your arrival", the next which is literally from inside Brian's house. Masky is there in Entry #23. Like all the season one references, this can be for Brian or Tim, take your pick.

Cool Tim's in Warning. Even if someone else filmed it, this is de facto support for Hoody, since he's the only one actually shown to have any kind of direct contact with Masky.

9) Tim speaks in the first person in Entry ###### saying Jay will "lead me to the ark"

10) A shadowy figure films Jay in Entry #39, and we see film from the figure's perspective in totheark's Forecast. Entry #41 has Hoody in the forest the next morning.

11) totheark's Intermission has totheark claim he saw Jay in the woods during Entry #40 (or at least, it's a response to 40, it has footage from the same forest areas as in 40, and it says "I SAW YOU") and Entry #41 shows that Hoody was following Jay in 40.

12) Hoody's in Classified.

13) Hoody's silhouette and Masky's mask are both in Sidenote.

14) Masky is in Extraction.

I haven't even gotten to ANY season three references.

15) Decay - I have no idea what the op is talking about with Decay, but let's count this as the totheark-wants-Alex-dead-and-so-do-the-maskies one, because I don't want to count the other million of those.

16+17) observation - the op's reference is also not the connection here. It's not that Tim is probably filming himself, it's that Hoody is later shown, in the next entry (#61) outside the same window, stalking Tim. Also, there was an image preview for this video on Jay's twitter when someone, posting in code and cryptic messages (WHO COULD IT BE :O ) was posting, and then they posted a link to this totheark video after it got posted.

Then, they hacked the aforementioned Entry #61 onto Jay's channel, linked that on Twitter, and then gave Jay his password back. Obviously Hoody filmed, and given what the text says in relation to 62, is probably the one typing up Entry #61. And the text in the video is totheark style. This is almost three reasons but let's just say it's two, because it's so explicitly Hoody screaming "I'M TOTHEARK" it's upsetting.

1Cool New footage of Hoody is in Isolation. It has Hoody looking up and the text says "MEET AGAIN SOON"

19) New footage of Hoody is in Surveilance (combined with old footage of everyone else)

20) Null - no one can solve the rest of it, but we all know part of it decodes to "IM BRIAN" (I want to make another snarky comment here but I can't think of anything good. Make one yourself)


I'm not sure you get it. The point isn't that Masky and Hoody aren't Totheark, because there's insurmountible evidence that they were both involved, the point is that they may not have been the only members of Totheark.

Also, yes, the matching pairs thing with videos was one hell of a logical leap, but 'two in a pair, three of a kind' had to mean something. And on that note,
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I personally buy the whole "Seth is (at least a part of) TTA" seeing as he had footage from Alex's camera (Exit, and Advocate), that we hadn't seen before. He also knows a decent amount about video editing. I wouldn't say it's too far fetched to assume he was at least a part of it.

or maybe i don't want a character played by a guy i know to be entirely useless
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While it's never confirmed, Jay tweeted that the nature of the TTA videos led him to believe it was a collective rather than one person. I'd like to think Seth was in TTA somewhere, it's extremely unlikely, but makes more sense than Brian or Tim manning the channel. Like I said before there was a time when the "Seth is Hoody" theory was the strongest. Troy said after MH ended that they never got to expand on the concept of Skully and that he still may be out there, which I like to think could be Seth.

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Cyan507 wrote:
While it's never confirmed, Jay tweeted that the nature of the TTA videos led him to believe it was a collective rather than one person. I'd like to think Seth was in TTA somewhere, it's extremely unlikely, but makes more sense than Brian or Tim manning the channel. Like I said before there was a time when the "Seth is Hoody" theory was the strongest. Troy said after MH ended that they never got to expand on the concept of Skully and that he still may be out there, which I like to think could be Seth.


If I recall, Skully was actually supposed to be Jay, running around with TTA during some of his own lengthy blackouts.
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Ataxis wrote:
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While it's never confirmed, Jay tweeted that the nature of the TTA videos led him to believe it was a collective rather than one person. I'd like to think Seth was in TTA somewhere, it's extremely unlikely, but makes more sense than Brian or Tim manning the channel. Like I said before there was a time when the "Seth is Hoody" theory was the strongest. Troy said after MH ended that they never got to expand on the concept of Skully and that he still may be out there, which I like to think could be Seth.


If I recall, Skully was actually supposed to be Jay, running around with TTA during some of his own lengthy blackouts.


I don't remember anyone from THAC saying that, but that sounds plausible, if Jay had a masky/hoody like alter ego they could have got another season out of MH

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Cyan507 wrote:
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Cyan507 wrote:
While it's never confirmed, Jay tweeted that the nature of the TTA videos led him to believe it was a collective rather than one person. I'd like to think Seth was in TTA somewhere, it's extremely unlikely, but makes more sense than Brian or Tim manning the channel. Like I said before there was a time when the "Seth is Hoody" theory was the strongest. Troy said after MH ended that they never got to expand on the concept of Skully and that he still may be out there, which I like to think could be Seth.


If I recall, Skully was actually supposed to be Jay, running around with TTA during some of his own lengthy blackouts.


I don't remember anyone from THAC saying that, but that sounds plausible, if Jay had a masky/hoody like alter ego they could have got another season out of MH


Oh right, now I remember. Jay was skully until it was scrapped in the writing.
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