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location_scout.wmv
From A.K. Blog on Marblehornets.com

https://youtu.be/QfUubwjhI2I

http://marblehornets.com/

Username: Alex
Password: rocky86

This is blog post #7

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Re: location_scout.wmv
From A.K. Blog on Marblehornets.com

Timmy wrote:
https://youtu.be/QfUubwjhI2I

http://marblehornets.com/

Username: Alex
Password: rocky86

This is blog post #7


So... This is my analysis so far. It could be outscretched, but someone has to start first. Wassupbro is already busy with solving the coding so I will analze this video.

00:36, it looks like The Mill that appear in Tim's Channel video.
00:38 - 01:00, the cameaman is peeking and hiding for quite a long time. Is he playing hide and seek with someone or try avoiding someone?
01:03, An unusual water splash on the water at least three times. Does dry fruit or leaves fall on the water or someone purposely throw it to water?
01:08, In far away, you can see a figure of person, or at least what you think as person. I cant tell which for now, but it could be the one who throw things into water because the cameraman look straight at him after saw the first unusual water splash.
I didn't write the time for this one, but he record the water all the time like some of obsession. Yknow, TTA.
01:29, I heard sirens... I'm probably crazy to think about this, but what is that siren is the one we hear after Tim leaves Sarah? I mean, in Entry 87 we can hear the sirens for a reason. And that reason could be connected to this video.
And this person... whoever he is, really like this place he record a totally unneeded spot. Just saying.
01:43-01:44, Do you guys see his hand?? If you pause in the right spot, you'll see it. It looks like nothing Alex has ever wore. Does Alex ever use black gloves and tan/peach jacket? I don't think so. So couod this be Hoodie or... another unknown TTA member we haven't know yet?

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New video? New video! Hell yeah!

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Hazman wrote:
New video? New video! Hell yeah!


Smile) There's something weird about this video. If you open Marble Hornets channel to see this video, its not there. But if you click the link, we can watch the videos and the video is in MH! Does that mean this video is actually private?

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leadmetodeath wrote:

Smile) There's something weird about this video. If you open Marble Hornets channel to see this video, its not there. But if you click the link, we can watch the videos and the video is in MH! Does that mean this video is actually private?


The video is unlisted. Only those with the link can see it.
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censura_umbra
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Since no one has posted this yet:

If you look at the description, at the bottom it says "We're Always With You"

If you go to MarbleHornets.com/WereAlwaysWithYou

You see this code:

000000000000000000000000000010000000
000000100000000000000000000000000000
010000000000000000000000000000000000
010000000000000000000000000000000000
000000010000000000000000000000000000
000000000000000000000000010000000000
000000000000000000000100000000000000
000000001000000000000000000000000000
000000000010000000000000000000000000
000000000000010000000000000000000000
000000000000100000000000000000000000

There are 11 lines and 32 numbers in each line.

My theory is each line = one Character of a YouTube url (the part after watch?v=) Since those codes are 11 characters long.

Since each line is 32 numbers, I figured it may have to do with Base 32.

The Base 32 Wikipedia page offers a good conversion table for the different base 32.

I used the position of the 1s to determine which base 32 character each line was.

-----------------------------------------------------#---------RFC 4648 base 32
000000000000000000000000000010000000--29--------------5
000000100000000000000000000000000000--7----------------h
010000000000000000000000000000000000--2----------------b
010000000000000000000000000000000000--2----------------b
000000010000000000000000000000000000--8----------------i
000000000000000000000000010000000000--26--------------2
000000000000000000000100000000000000--22--------------w
000000001000000000000000000000000000--9----------------j
000000000010000000000000000000000000--11--------------L
000000000000010000000000000000000000--14--------------o
000000000000100000000000000000000000--13--------------n

This gives a code of 5hbbi2wjLon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hbbi2wjlOn

Looks good, but unfortunately YouTube URLs are case sensitive, so we would have to try multiple combinations of capitalizations.

Also, there are multiple Base 32 Alphabets, and we wouldn't know which THAC used for this. So we may have to try others.

Or I'm completely wrong and this is a waste of time. But better than nothing.

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leadmetodeath
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censura_umbra wrote:
Since no one has posted this yet:

If you look at the description, at the bottom it says "We're Always With You"

If you go to MarbleHornets.com/WereAlwaysWithYou

You see this code:

000000000000000000000000000010000000
000000100000000000000000000000000000
010000000000000000000000000000000000
010000000000000000000000000000000000
000000010000000000000000000000000000
000000000000000000000000010000000000
000000000000000000000100000000000000
000000001000000000000000000000000000
000000000010000000000000000000000000
000000000000010000000000000000000000
000000000000100000000000000000000000

There are 11 lines and 32 numbers in each line.

My theory is each line = one Character of a YouTube url (the part after watch?v=) Since those codes are 11 characters long.

Since each line is 32 numbers, I figured it may have to do with Base 32.

The Base 32 Wikipedia page offers a good conversion table for the different base 32.

I used the position of the 1s to determine which base 32 character each line was.

-----------------------------------------------------#---------RFC 4648 base 32
000000000000000000000000000010000000--29--------------5
000000100000000000000000000000000000--7----------------h
010000000000000000000000000000000000--2----------------b
010000000000000000000000000000000000--2----------------b
000000010000000000000000000000000000--8----------------i
000000000000000000000000010000000000--26--------------2
000000000000000000000100000000000000--22--------------w
000000001000000000000000000000000000--9----------------j
000000000010000000000000000000000000--11--------------L
000000000000010000000000000000000000--14--------------o
000000000000100000000000000000000000--13--------------n

This gives a code of 5hbbi2wjLon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hbbi2wjlOn

Looks good, but unfortunately YouTube URLs are case sensitive, so we would have to try multiple combinations of capitalizations.

Also, there are multiple Base 32 Alphabets, and we wouldn't know which THAC used for this. So we may have to try others.

Or I'm completely wrong and this is a waste of time. But better than nothing.


I thought there is 36 numbers on each line?

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leadmetodeath
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Vinny wrote:
leadmetodeath wrote:

Smile) There's something weird about this video. If you open Marble Hornets channel to see this video, its not there. But if you click the link, we can watch the videos and the video is in MH! Does that mean this video is actually private?


The video is unlisted. Only those with the link can see it.


Oh... That make sense.

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Ascalondion
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Re: location_scout.wmv
From A.K. Blog on Marblehornets.com

leadmetodeath wrote:
Timmy wrote:
https://youtu.be/QfUubwjhI2I

http://marblehornets.com/

Username: Alex
Password: rocky86

This is blog post #7


So... This is my analysis so far. It could be outscretched, but someone has to start first. Wassupbro is already busy with solving the coding so I will analze this video.

00:36, it looks like The Mill that appear in Tim's Channel video.
00:38 - 01:00, the cameaman is peeking and hiding for quite a long time. Is he playing hide and seek with someone or try avoiding someone?
01:03, An unusual water splash on the water at least three times. Does dry fruit or leaves fall on the water or someone purposely throw it to water?
01:08, In far away, you can see a figure of person, or at least what you think as person. I cant tell which for now, but it could be the one who throw things into water because the cameraman look straight at him after saw the first unusual water splash.
I didn't write the time for this one, but he record the water all the time like some of obsession. Yknow, TTA.
01:29, I heard sirens... I'm probably crazy to think about this, but what is that siren is the one we hear after Tim leaves Sarah? I mean, in Entry 87 we can hear the sirens for a reason. And that reason could be connected to this video.
And this person... whoever he is, really like this place he record a totally unneeded spot. Just saying.
01:43-01:44, Do you guys see his hand?? If you pause in the right spot, you'll see it. It looks like nothing Alex has ever wore. Does Alex ever use black gloves and tan/peach jacket? I don't think so. So couod this be Hoodie or... another unknown TTA member we haven't know yet?


@0036 I was more thinking of this "tower": https://youtu.be/G7g1owxFHKk?t=5m55s
What video from Tim do you mean? His Take of the original Marble Hornets? The lake Tim uses reminds me of the lake we see here later.

@0038-0100 I guess that was just Alex trying out "a few test camera moves, as you can probably tell". I'd try to look for some tall figure he caught accidentally by that, but were unable to.

@0103 Didn't seem unusual to me, could be anything from small fish, insects frogs or whatever. Happens all the time.

@0108 I don't think it is a person, nor does it look like TO. But sure, whatever this is (some old well...thingy or a tree) it sure has some human features.

@sirens Mhmm, given that this location scouting is supposed to happen in 2006, I think it is far fetched to assume the sirens are the same as in #87.
If anything, than they meant only that Alex was scouting in a restricted area, and got scared when he heard sirens (hence the abrupt ending).

@hand I went through it frame-by-frame, and now it looks just like a naked hand to me. The different colours are the result of a shadow coming from behind Alex.

And filming useless spots for location scouting seems also not very suspicious to me. We want some "cool" locations to use for his film, locations that are not to much frequented by other people that interrupt shooting, and by the same time could look like some small town youngsters could use them so hang around. And I can totally see a couple of teenagers hang around at that lake.

So, if there is anything in that video, it is very subtle (surprise!). I agree that the filming of water was TTA-esque to me, but filming water when you are out in the nature isn't too far fetched. But who knows, maybe the water footage in TTA was just Brian mocking Alex's style again.

Since I find so little in that video, I'm either looking at the wrong things, or there could come a couple more videos like these. Say, another update with Alex showing new locations. And then another one. And then he tells us that he wants to bring a friend of his with him next time to show him something. And that then there will be a tie in to #5. But, who knows. In the meantime, I think we should focus on the dyhf? page.

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leadmetodeath wrote:


I thought there is 36 numbers on each line?


Ah. You are right, it was late and I made a mistake.

If you do it with base 36:

-----------------------------------------------------#---------base 36
000000000000000000000000000010000000--29--------------T
000000100000000000000000000000000000--7----------------7
010000000000000000000000000000000000--2----------------2
010000000000000000000000000000000000--2----------------2
000000010000000000000000000000000000--8----------------8
000000000000000000000000010000000000--26--------------Q
000000000000000000000100000000000000--22--------------M
000000001000000000000000000000000000--9----------------9
000000000010000000000000000000000000--11--------------B
000000000000010000000000000000000000--14--------------E
000000000000100000000000000000000000--13--------------D

T7228QM9BED

May be too many #s for a youtube code. Not sure the rules for youtube codes.

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Re: location_scout.wmv
From A.K. Blog on Marblehornets.com

Ascalondion wrote:
leadmetodeath wrote:
Timmy wrote:
https://youtu.be/QfUubwjhI2I

http://marblehornets.com/

Username: Alex
Password: rocky86

This is blog post #7


So... This is my analysis so far. It could be outscretched, but someone has to start first. Wassupbro is already busy with solving the coding so I will analze this video.

00:36, it looks like The Mill that appear in Tim's Channel video.
00:38 - 01:00, the cameaman is peeking and hiding for quite a long time. Is he playing hide and seek with someone or try avoiding someone?
01:03, An unusual water splash on the water at least three times. Does dry fruit or leaves fall on the water or someone purposely throw it to water?
01:08, In far away, you can see a figure of person, or at least what you think as person. I cant tell which for now, but it could be the one who throw things into water because the cameraman look straight at him after saw the first unusual water splash.
I didn't write the time for this one, but he record the water all the time like some of obsession. Yknow, TTA.
01:29, I heard sirens... I'm probably crazy to think about this, but what is that siren is the one we hear after Tim leaves Sarah? I mean, in Entry 87 we can hear the sirens for a reason. And that reason could be connected to this video.
And this person... whoever he is, really like this place he record a totally unneeded spot. Just saying.
01:43-01:44, Do you guys see his hand?? If you pause in the right spot, you'll see it. It looks like nothing Alex has ever wore. Does Alex ever use black gloves and tan/peach jacket? I don't think so. So couod this be Hoodie or... another unknown TTA member we haven't know yet?


@0036 I was more thinking of this "tower": https://youtu.be/G7g1owxFHKk?t=5m55s
What video from Tim do you mean? His Take of the original Marble Hornets? The lake Tim uses reminds me of the lake we see here later.

@0038-0100 I guess that was just Alex trying out "a few test camera moves, as you can probably tell". I'd try to look for some tall figure he caught accidentally by that, but were unable to.

@0103 Didn't seem unusual to me, could be anything from small fish, insects frogs or whatever. Happens all the time.

@0108 I don't think it is a person, nor does it look like TO. But sure, whatever this is (some old well...thingy or a tree) it sure has some human features.

@sirens Mhmm, given that this location scouting is supposed to happen in 2006, I think it is far fetched to assume the sirens are the same as in #87.
If anything, than they meant only that Alex was scouting in a restricted area, and got scared when he heard sirens (hence the abrupt ending).

@hand I went through it frame-by-frame, and now it looks just like a naked hand to me. The different colours are the result of a shadow coming from behind Alex.

And filming useless spots for location scouting seems also not very suspicious to me. We want some "cool" locations to use for his film, locations that are not to much frequented by other people that interrupt shooting, and by the same time could look like some small town youngsters could use them so hang around. And I can totally see a couple of teenagers hang around at that lake.

So, if there is anything in that video, it is very subtle (surprise!). I agree that the filming of water was TTA-esque to me, but filming water when you are out in the nature isn't too far fetched. But who knows, maybe the water footage in TTA was just Brian mocking Alex's style again.

Since I find so little in that video, I'm either looking at the wrong things, or there could come a couple more videos like these. Say, another update with Alex showing new locations. And then another one. And then he tells us that he wants to bring a friend of his with him next time to show him something. And that then there will be a tie in to #5. But, who knows. In the meantime, I think we should focus on the dyhf? page.




@0036 This is what I mean with The Mill.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NgFdHbNrq0

@0038 I probably a weirdo to say this, but it's too...weird to test cameras like that. Just me, though. And I have to ask loudly since I'm an idiot. If they make romance movies, why would they record in forests??

@0103 & 0108 I agree for this one.

@0129 Well, you said that if this happen at 2006. But what if it's not? This video should be so old and Jay were suppose to see this when he watch all of the tapes. And after years he kept this things, why now and after his (possible) death? And he was too silence.

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Re: location_scout.wmv
From A.K. Blog on Marblehornets.com

leadmetodeath wrote:
Ascalondion wrote:
leadmetodeath wrote:
Timmy wrote:
https://youtu.be/QfUubwjhI2I

http://marblehornets.com/

Username: Alex
Password: rocky86

This is blog post #7


So... This is my analysis so far. It could be outscretched, but someone has to start first. Wassupbro is already busy with solving the coding so I will analze this video.

00:36, it looks like The Mill that appear in Tim's Channel video.
00:38 - 01:00, the cameaman is peeking and hiding for quite a long time. Is he playing hide and seek with someone or try avoiding someone?
01:03, An unusual water splash on the water at least three times. Does dry fruit or leaves fall on the water or someone purposely throw it to water?
01:08, In far away, you can see a figure of person, or at least what you think as person. I cant tell which for now, but it could be the one who throw things into water because the cameraman look straight at him after saw the first unusual water splash.
I didn't write the time for this one, but he record the water all the time like some of obsession. Yknow, TTA.
01:29, I heard sirens... I'm probably crazy to think about this, but what is that siren is the one we hear after Tim leaves Sarah? I mean, in Entry 87 we can hear the sirens for a reason. And that reason could be connected to this video.
And this person... whoever he is, really like this place he record a totally unneeded spot. Just saying.
01:43-01:44, Do you guys see his hand?? If you pause in the right spot, you'll see it. It looks like nothing Alex has ever wore. Does Alex ever use black gloves and tan/peach jacket? I don't think so. So couod this be Hoodie or... another unknown TTA member we haven't know yet?


@0036 I was more thinking of this "tower": https://youtu.be/G7g1owxFHKk?t=5m55s
What video from Tim do you mean? His Take of the original Marble Hornets? The lake Tim uses reminds me of the lake we see here later.

@0038-0100 I guess that was just Alex trying out "a few test camera moves, as you can probably tell". I'd try to look for some tall figure he caught accidentally by that, but were unable to.

@0103 Didn't seem unusual to me, could be anything from small fish, insects frogs or whatever. Happens all the time.

@0108 I don't think it is a person, nor does it look like TO. But sure, whatever this is (some old well...thingy or a tree) it sure has some human features.

@sirens Mhmm, given that this location scouting is supposed to happen in 2006, I think it is far fetched to assume the sirens are the same as in #87.
If anything, than they meant only that Alex was scouting in a restricted area, and got scared when he heard sirens (hence the abrupt ending).

@hand I went through it frame-by-frame, and now it looks just like a naked hand to me. The different colours are the result of a shadow coming from behind Alex.

And filming useless spots for location scouting seems also not very suspicious to me. We want some "cool" locations to use for his film, locations that are not to much frequented by other people that interrupt shooting, and by the same time could look like some small town youngsters could use them so hang around. And I can totally see a couple of teenagers hang around at that lake.

So, if there is anything in that video, it is very subtle (surprise!). I agree that the filming of water was TTA-esque to me, but filming water when you are out in the nature isn't too far fetched. But who knows, maybe the water footage in TTA was just Brian mocking Alex's style again.

Since I find so little in that video, I'm either looking at the wrong things, or there could come a couple more videos like these. Say, another update with Alex showing new locations. And then another one. And then he tells us that he wants to bring a friend of his with him next time to show him something. And that then there will be a tie in to #5. But, who knows. In the meantime, I think we should focus on the dyhf? page.




@0036 This is what I mean with The Mill.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NgFdHbNrq0

@0038 I probably a weirdo to say this, but it's too...weird to test cameras like that. Just me, though. And I have to ask loudly since I'm an idiot. If they make romance movies, why would they record in forests??

@0103 & 0108 I agree for this one.

@0129 Well, you said that if this happen at 2006. But what if it's not? This video should be so old and Jay were suppose to see this when he watch all of the tapes. And after years he kept this things, why now and after his (possible) death? And he was too silence.


Well, lonely forests can be romantic. When you are alone with you romantic interest out there you can do some teenager stuff, y'know. And while it could have a deeper meaning that Alex is silent, I would not want to read too much into it. Yes, he could have said things like "and here I'm going to try this shot and that movement. I think maybe we can have a shot were X is hiding and eavesdropping" or something like that. But I would mainly disregard the content of the video. Maybe there are a few nods here and there, but I guess the main messages is around the video, rather than the video itself.

I haven't given it much thought in the beginning, but your remark about the video not being from 2006 made me think about it. I haven't read a conclusive theory on why a blog from 2006 is updated as if it were in the present (D Scott reuploading the site after investigation gives us no more information and would only be to form a connection between two loose ends for the sake of tying those loose ends.). And now, it even more looks like Alex is making these updates, because he uploaded the video. But we know that it is impossible for Alex to upload it now.
But what is new about this?
I tell you: The fact that it was uploaded to the MarbleHornets Youtube Channel.

Even IG, the very channel that was used by (mostly) Jay to update us on his findings about the old tapes is now being used by "Alex" to upload behind the scenes stuff from the Marble Hornets movie.

If this is not just something that we have to overlook to keep the suspension of disbelief, this is a big tell. I'm not dead sure on that, but wasn't the channel created by Jay? Why would Alex upload there? Maybe Jay supervised not only the script at one point, but also helped by managing the youtube channel. And when he started to post the findings, he used the 3 years old channel that Alex actually started. It would at least reduced the problem to the same problem with the blog, why 9 year old updated show up as if present.

If, however, that is not the case and there is no timewarp/timetravel going on, then we might have a new puzzle piece to work with. Because this would mean that "Alex" actually posted to the channel that once belonged to Jay. So whoever posted this video, then, would be in full knowledge of what happened in the series. Actually, by typing this, I realized that changes nothing at all. :\ We still stand (as before) before the decision to believe in time distortion and that a sincere Alex posted this but it is only revealed now, or we believe in some person messing with the MH fandom and posting updates from imposter Alex. Whoever is in control of this, we now have proof that he not only has the marblehornets.com site, but also the youtube channel. with the tweet from valentines day we may also assume that now the unknown entity is in full control of every official MH publishing institution.

Oh yeah, and for those who didn't check the THAC forums, a user caught the proto-version of the well known "bottom glitch" distortion in the location scouting! Very awesome.

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Regarding the code on the page http://marblehornets.com/werealwayswithyou

Think of it as a reverse base 36 and use the . to separate the letters and numbers. So start from the letter "a" and count to "z," then after "z" go to the number "0" and count to "9"; then start again from "a" repeat and grab your characters at the 1s and you'll get "2gbbhzviknm".

Then bc ppl got lazy with the deciphering we brute forced the case sensitive letters (results: http://pastebin.com/ghgB6Y51)

So, we finally took "3GBbhzVIKNM", after a lot of trial and error, put that shit in a youtube url and we got https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GBbhzVIKNM

A video titled "do you hear footsteps?"

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Already discovered in another thread Smile

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WhenYouGoMadd wrote:
Regarding the code on the page http://marblehornets.com/werealwayswithyou

Think of it as a reverse base 36 and use the . to separate the letters and numbers. So start from the letter "a" and count to "z," then after "z" go to the number "0" and count to "9"; then start again from "a" repeat and grab your characters at the 1s and you'll get "2gbbhzviknm".

Then bc ppl got lazy with the deciphering we brute forced the case sensitive letters (results: http://pastebin.com/ghgB6Y51)

So, we finally took "3GBbhzVIKNM", after a lot of trial and error, put that shit in a youtube url and we got https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GBbhzVIKNM

A video titled "do you hear footsteps?"


Bish please i solved that and posted on unfiction first to give unfiction the credit

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