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Pierley/Redford Dissociative Affect Diagnostic
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Ofiuco
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What surprises me, though, is that if this is really supposed to be a test about depersonalization, shouldn't somebody be coming up diagnosed with depersonalization?! So far it just acts like a personality test, with a closed set of answers. Of course... maybe the fact that all personalities are reducible to one of a dozen possible outcomes is the really depersonalizing thing... and maybe the sense of irrealis that ARGs give us is that too.

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Saevitia
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Got an email with a new test!

http://www.hypnoid.com/psytestApr/EM_Beige_Feb2011.html

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This client has been longing to escape the constraints that she has put upon herself or that she believes society has forced upon her. This with-held desire for stimulation may express itself in sudden, unexpected or unreasonable behavior. Client will often regret this behavior and start the process over from the beginning. The best method of entry for such an individual is to appeal to the nature of this problem, because he or she is likely very aware of it.

Not only is this client finding little success in life, he or she has let this frustration express itself in a near paralyzing inability to make decisions. Consequently, stress is foremost, and the knowledge of this situation is a self-reinforcing problem.

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icerimp
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Signed up for Albany, because Schenectady was taken! Sad
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OneEyedGod
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I was just browsing through Randy Hortons blog and something struck me as strange. In the page he has sent to us, he writes that he did not hear from these Austrians after the first test has been leaked. But if you follow his blog, you can see that he is still working for them. He even got some drugs for alzheimer prevention from one of them. And what struck me the most is that, from one point on, he ends all entrys regarding the doctors with the words:

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These people are legitimate doctors doing valuable work.


Sounds a bit mind controlled to me.

Anyhow, i wrote him an email asking, if he did get payment for his work.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 1:45 pm
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freddy-
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 pierly/redford dissociative affect diagnostic
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Hai, I'm freddy from the netherlands and I have done the test you people are discussing via a site called FrontierScience, translated in dutch it's Grenswetenschap.nl. All this might have to do with a guy called Xander who makes a comic series called The DeathStarGiftShop. I don't know what you guys already know about all this, but the names of the doctors Redford and pierly appear as caracters in a sort of blog that might as well be a fictitional work, pieca of art or whatever.
see here:
http://www.deathstargiftshop.com/?m=20080727
http://www.deathstargiftshop.com/?m=20080807
http://www.deathstargiftshop.com/?m=20080814
http://www.deathstargiftshop.com/?m=20080818
http://www.deathstargiftshop.com/?m=20080911
http://www.deathstargiftshop.com/?m=200912
http://www.hypnoid.com/psytestApr/
http://deathstargiftshop.thecomicseries.com/

When anyone of you can tell me more about the origins of this project, please go to http://www.grenswetenschap.nl/blogs/Opmerkelijk-deel-6/#reactie187417
and give a reaction (@freddy-)
I'm very curioous on all this. I see the tests (there are 2) as very serious and i'm curious on what it's based or in a different view: how or in which way we are fooled by this. On the site I"m frequenting, the critic is that there are no more then 4 or so outcomes of the test, with a sort of astrological sort of outcome. On which I disagree. Also is mentioned the Forer-effect
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forer_effect
but I disagree on a comparison as this test being sort alike. If it's an formof art, it's very well done. And I believe it is. The names of the psychologists are nowhere mentioned in the google search-machine as in the context given. They are nowhere found as drs of psychology at any institute or university, but found as characters in the deathstargiftshop-blog.

I'm curious with any reaction anyone is welcome at the dutch website, which name I gave above

with friendly greetings..
freddy-r

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Ofiuco
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Hey Freddy,

The original psychologists cited were Brierly and Medford, who really do exist and are experts on depersonalization.

I am half-tempted to reach out to my friends in academic psychology to ask them if they know anything about this.

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freddy-
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pierly/redford dissociative affect diagnostic
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Hi Ofiuco
tyvm for the quick reply. I'll look up the names as you gave them. You say they were originally cited. Where was that? On the giftshop site or the richard Horton Portfolio? You might give a http adress.

Do you have any idea what this all is (about)? An art projector something comletely different, as the Richard Horton Portfolio directs to companies existing in reality, etc.

I've read some reactions on the net and the test gives a lot of people the creeps, as well in the way it in fact IS, as well on the accuracy of the outcome.
But it sort of seems like to be part of something else, embedded in a bigger thing. A Project of Some Sort (and that just might be anything< i'mcurious what's behind all this, it's very well done)

It would be very nice if you could ask your friends in academic life>
tx

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Ofiuco
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They were never cited anywhere, but according to the Internet/earlier parts of the thread, the test was originally named the Brierly/Medford test. If you look up depersonalization disorder on Wikipedia, you'll see they are two psychologists who are experts in the field and are actively researching it (among others).

Just from the perspective of someone who once took a psychology class, obviously, no real test would end in such horoscope-esque personality assessments. A real diagnostic test would provide a metric intended to help a psychologist make a diagnosis, which would have to be interpreted. It may be that the author really was commissioned to make a web version of such a test, but, having been divorced from the project, assigned certain assessments to certain values. Or, it's not real and it's all made up. Either way, the creepiness is based on cold reading - writing something sufficiently vague as to make it possibly true for any number of people.

I believe it's possible that Richard Horton made the test as an example for his portfolio, and then decided to take advantage of the massive amounts of attention the test got by continuing to make more tests. Stuff like that has happened before.

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coldcola
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long time lurker of unfiction finally decided to make an account when i came upon this.

am i not right in thinking that this emisary thing makes it pretty likely its a little more than just a simple flash test?

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done..

done lurking, and reading. im in. signed up for my hometown. havent taken the tests, dont know if theyre necessary. lets see what happens.
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coldcola
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perhaps the blog posts have something to do with the order the questions need to be answered in?

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Zobot257
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How do you get to sign up for your home town? I've emailed all the email accts I know of and I've taken both tests, and I'm not sure how to procede...

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OneEyedGod
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You can sign up at http://emisary.com/.

But nothing has happened until now, so you didn't miss anything.

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Ofiuco
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I'm working my way through a paper by the real Medford (no Brierly though, sorry Brierly). An interesting read, although for obvious reasons it's not offering me any insight into this particular test here. It does mention something called 'reality testing' which is a real diagnostic procedure, but I don't have time right now to look it up.

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cindersphere
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Hmm did this die before it got started.

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