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Marl64
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[SOLVED - CONFIRMED] Paintover Binary Filenames

(Continued from http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2645&start=219)

 Omnie wrote: The new binary filename for the stairs pic is 15. So we have 1 4 9 25 15... 1*1 2*2 3*3 5*5 5*3 If 25 weren't there, I'd put money on the next one being 22...ah well. It looks like they're playing with prime multiplication...maybe 2*3=6 as a next one? Doesn't exist yet, anyway...we're missing something here...

... and elsewhere ...

There are numerous maths sequences that "almost-fit" with the series of numbers we have so far. I wondered if the probem is that we're looking for patterns in the decimal versions of the binary numbers, rather than the binary originals.

Anyway, Here's a summary so far (Including Decimal and Hexadecimal equivalents).
 Code: Date       Filename      DEC   HEX    Title Oct 01    00000001.jpg     1    01    eye see Oct 05    00000100.jpg     4    04    et tu? Oct 09    00001001.jpg     9    09    Grabbing Internet Files, a primer Oct 11    00001111.jpg    15    0F    sasquatch Oct 16    00000011.jpg     3    03    whomp Oct 25    00011010.jpg    26    1A    OH LOOK A MYSTERIOUS IMAGE Nov 06    00001000.jpg     8    08    agenda Oct 09    00011001.jpg    25    19    Oh, and BTW... Oct 09    00001001.gif     9    09    (none, Hidden File)

-={ thumbnails link to originals on paintover.net }=-
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-={ thumbnails link to originals on paintover.net }=-

28 October - Possible Solution? as started HERE
 Code: DATE     DEC +64 ASCII  ROT5 Oct 01     1  65   A      F Oct 05     4  68   D      I Oct 09     9  73   I      N Oct 09    25  89   Y      D Oct 11    15  79   O      T Oct 16     3  67   C      H Oct 25    26  90   Z      E Nov 06     8  72   H      M
based on this theory, the answer so far is: F I N D T H E M

Nybble Theory
If the 25 is throwing out the sequence, see what you can do without it.

The two pictures which appeared on the 9th have identical binary except for one bit (00011001).

If we only consider the right hand 4 bits, what in computer terms is the "least significant nybble" (I kid you not, half a byte is a nybble) the 25 is not required for the sequence.

Look at it another way, in the hex column, we only deal with the right hand digit. Now Omnies theory could possibly fit.

Edit: Typo, thanks Yanka
Edit: Added October 16 Picture (and smug look regarding Nybbles )
Edit: Added Oct 25 - Scratch Post in different location, so can this be excluded from the "caesar" sequence?
Edit: Added Oct 29 - Possible Solution Table.
Edit: Added Nov 06 Picture (thumbnail to follow)
Edit: The PM's have confirmed this as correctly solved
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Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2003 3:21 pm
Last edited by Marl64 on Tue Nov 25, 2003 3:23 pm; edited 12 times in total
yanka
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Marl, I think there is a typo in your sequence (last file, the gif).

What if we look at it yet another way, in chronological order?

1 = Oct. 1
4 = Oct. 5
9 = Oct. 9
9 = Oct. 9
25 = Oct. 9
15 = Oct. 11

First date (1st) + 2nd file (4) = 2nd date (5). This is already a stretch, but 2nd date (5th) + 2nd file (4) = 3rd date (9). And then it completely breaks...

Or the differences in dates: 4, 4, 0, 0, 2
compared to
the differences in files: 3, 5, 0, 16, 10??

Oh well, still nothing
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Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2003 3:49 pm
Marl64
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 yanka wrote: Marl, I think there is a typo in your sequence (last file, the gif).

Thanks for that

I kept the two files at the bottom seperate. I figure that since they we extras included with one of the other pics, they could be left out of the sequence.

Giving a final list of 1, 4, 9, 15

Edit: One downside of my "Nybble" theory is that any further picture values have to be less than 16
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Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2003 3:53 pm
yanka
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Marl,
I think about a week ago (or at least it seems like it, lol) I tried everything in order, 1-20. So I guess they release things on a schedule, and we won't be able to retrieve anything anyway.

In which case, the file "names" (=numbers) wouldn't do us any good - they just won't be there until it's time. So the sequence might be pointing to something else entirely, and in that case, your "nybble" theory is as good as "byte" theory.

Have no idea what that they might relate to, though...
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Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2003 5:43 pm
Pierre
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Odd idea

Could it be that, once they have put all the pictures online we could get some kind of text by putting all their names one after the other in order of appearence? I'm not used to writing in binary, so sorry if this is nonsense...

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2003 6:42 pm
Odeon
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eye see= I see
et tu? = and you?

Grabbing Internet Files, a primer

sasquatch ? (Sorry, I'm german...is it bigfoot or something? i'm not really sure if their might be a second meaning or if there are just some words missing....)

But Pierre, that might be a posible solution....

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2003 5:57 am
dias
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 Odeon wrote: Grabbing Internet Files, a primer

hmm... GIF, a primer? Does this lead anywhere?

 Odeon wrote: sasquatch ? (Sorry, I'm german...is it bigfoot or something? i'm not really sure if their might be a second meaning or if there are just some words missing....)

Yup, its a bigfoot, or yeti, or abonimable snowman, or whatever people like calling it...

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2003 6:06 am
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dias wrote:
 Odeon wrote: Grabbing Internet Files, a primer

hmm... GIF, a primer? Does this lead anywhere?

 Odeon wrote: sasquatch ? (Sorry, I'm german...is it bigfoot or something? i'm not really sure if their might be a second meaning or if there are just some words missing....)

Yup, its a bigfoot, or yeti, or abonimable snowman, or whatever people like calling it...

sasquatch, bigfoot, yeti, yowie and skunk ape

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2003 6:31 am
Odeon
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Grabbing Internet Files, a primer (for) sasquatch ?

I just studied some dictionaries and found out, that primer also can mean something like "easy instruction collection" (don't know how to explain the german word "Fibel")

now, it starts makein a sense. Let's write it this way:

"Grabbing Internet Files", a primer for sasquatch(es).

Makes more sense, eh?an easy instruction how to grab internet files... for beginners e.g.

Odeon

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2003 6:44 am
Marl64
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dias wrote:
 Odeon wrote: Grabbing Internet Files, a primer

hmm... GIF, a primer? Does this lead anywhere?

It led us to the Gif version of the file...

Geinstein wrote:
This text was hidden in the 00001001.gif file using steganography:

 Quote: Slight change in plans. Second verse, same as the first. The blind transit's been plugged to the oafs Let's view it from the top Blindly, still, but climb those stairs carefully dub dub dub, hack and slash You'll find the way! -c.

Geinstein

Which was the first clue to the silvia files.

Whether there was actually enough here to get into those files is a topic for a different thread I think.
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2003 6:47 am
Azathoth666
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I'd tend to agree with Marl... the filenames have served their purpose, and we have other puzzles to content ourselves with now.

Back to Tarot and missing people...
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2003 3:58 pm
Marl64
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 Marl64 wrote: One downside of my "Nybble" theory is that any further picture values have to be less than 16

 Giskard wrote: Oh and also, the filename is 00000011.jpg, or "3". I'd like to see anyone make a fitting theory based on those filenames now

Yes!
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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 4:49 pm
aqualung1105
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 Odeon wrote: eye see= I see et tu? = and you?

Someone else hinted in another thread (donīt remeber which one) that it should be read out loud: "I see it too" - hinting that whoever posts the images sees it (?) too...

Any clues to the identity of the poster?

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 5:17 pm
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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2003 4:36 pm
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Caesar

aqualung1105 wrote:
 Odeon wrote: eye see= I see et tu? = and you?

Someone else hinted in another thread (donīt remeber which one) that it should be read out loud: "I see it too" - hinting that whoever posts the images sees it (?) too...

Any clues to the identity of the poster?

Caesar is the first identified "hacker" who has a 1 C on his image in carelessly.jpg and posted the file. I think 1 C is Eye See and how about James Avery as the character?

See File Transcripts at http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2773

Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2003 8:44 pm
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