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[Trailhead] The God Machine
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degravedi
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[Trailhead] The God Machine

Just got this in an email.
Quote:
The time has come...
From: John Stander (mynameisstandartenSPLATgmail.com)
Sent: Mon 1/05/09 11:02 AM
John Murray Spear is long dead...
but they still managed to rebuild it.
40.748265, -73.986902
Help is Next to the Elephant.
H.E.L.I.X. CAM 14 1/1/2009 01:42:05:702

The coordinates are right next to the Empire State Building in New York. Anyone care to go take a look for an elephant?

From the John Murray Spear wiki:
Quote:
Clergyman John Murray Spear attempted to build a mechanical New Messiah in 1854 which ran on electricity. Many have referred to this device as "the God Machine".

In 1853, a former Universalist minister named John Murray Spear climbed to the top of High Rock Hill in Lynn, Massachusetts, with a handful of followers. They were given a wooden shed where they could work and spent nine months creating the "New Motive Power" ("The God Machine"). It was a mechanical Messiah, that was supposed to raise up all of humanity and Spear, a medium, created it under spirit supervision. He claimed to be in contact with the 'Association of Electrizers' a group of spirits that included Benjamin Franklin, who were interested in giving mankind new technology.

The group spent a small fortune creating the thing out of copper, zinc and magnets, all carefully machined, as well as a dining room table. At the end of nine months, Spear and the "New Mary," an unnamed woman, went through a bizarre ritual that mimicked giving birth and the God Machine supposedly came to life. Unfortunately, it didn't do much (some observers said nothing at all) and Spear allegedly moved the thing to Randolph, New York where it was smashed to bits by angry farmers.

Really frickin' interesting/weird stuff. I can't believe I haven't heard about this before.
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Iscabibble
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I'm also in contact with this person. They also sent me this line from Richard the third: "You live that shall cry woe for this after. " and this strange line I don't understand: "Go to new York, or find someone there, A phase of Norway is to be found there" I have asked if he means the actual PLACE of Norway, New York.

He also sent me this string of what looks like code, but I'm terrible at these: 1101010101010101192992948201010101029928828apapa
1001ppo"

I also had these subject headings, which seem odd. "twetg.we.get.wep", and "Dispatch; the limit of your lives is out. Re: The time has come.." which had nothing in the body at all.

I have five messages total, all in about ten or twelve minutes.

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natas
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Put the location in google maps and it takes you to a street cam
36 W 33rd St, New York, NY, United States

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I am intrigued.
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Iscabibble
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I don't see any elephants... And he seems to have stopped emailing me for now.

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Wulf74
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I got this as well - but was trying to decide if it was related to something different.

I couldn't come up with anything for the elephant either.

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degravedi
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The exact coordinates seem to be inside the building just to the left of the parking garage. The image is too blurry though, I cant see what the signs say. Maybe there's an elephant statue or something inside there.

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Scratch that last comment! I just recieved this:

The latin translates into "By the favour of the heavens"
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That is what I was thinking. It is definitely inside that building (the pinpoint that is). Wonder if the other side of the building has a sign maybe?
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degravedi
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degravedi wrote:
The exact coordinates seem to be inside the building just to the left of the parking garage. The image is too blurry though, I cant see what the signs say. Maybe there's an elephant statue or something inside there.

Scratch that! I was looking in the wrong direction, it's the other side of the street.

Edit: the address is 34 W 33rd St. It's a "vertical mall" for specialty stores. So anyone that can make it out is safe to snoop around inside.

Edit2: Apparently, the majority of the stores there are children's apparel so I could definitely see there being some kind of silly elephant there.

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um, aren't there statues of various animals in NYC? Or am i mixing NYC with another city?

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degravedi
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I know there's a really big bull on Wall Street, but that's about as far as I get.

Also there's a long list of businesses at that address on the Google Maps page if anyone wants to take a look through them. Link.

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I also got the email... Not sure what to respond or even whether to respond? I'm a little baffled right now...
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degravedi
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Iscabibble wrote:
The latin translates into "By the favour of the heavens"

Wanted to note that it's also been translated as "With the Benevolent Deity". In case either one is important.

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Got the trailhead too...

"The phrase Benigno Numine is the motto of William Pitt, 1st Earl of Chatham. It is generally translated as "With the Benevolent Deity" or 'By the Favour of the Heavens,'" and is the motto of Pittsburgh. But you folks can use Google too.

I've got a weird feeling about this, but I'm not going to say anything for fear of the jinx...

ETA The Herald Tribune called the Empire State the world's most famous white elephant. Don't see how that helps, exactly... link

A longer article about Spear is here.
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