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[Dunia]

2:33 PM pacific.

"two helicopters flew towards the sun just now"

On the map at that time were 2 UH-60s flying due north.

Very close coordinates were -104.13 , 45.706

[GenPatton43]

Re: [UPDATE] new text message

[Dunia]

So here is my guess:

We have to locate his/her GPS position based on the position of the sun.

Someone check my logic here and see if I'm missing something.

I don't think the locations I posted of the helicopters on the map matter. He didn't say they were overhead, or how far away, or if they were to the east or west of him.
The only thing he says is there are 2 helicopters flying towards the sun.
On the map the helicopters were travelling almost due north. I saw them angle slightly to the east as they travelled north, but just barely. Patton posted N/NW, so maybe I missed part of their flight. Patton had the position in S. Dakota or Wyoming, while I had the helicopters in Montana when I got the text message.

Summer solstice for 2007 was on June 21st. That's when the sun is at it's most northern position in our hemisphere. So if the sun was due north, wouldn't the time of the text message be approximately his/her solar noon?

I've found some calculators out there that give sunrise, sunset and solar noon based on lat/lon, but nothing that does it in reverse.

[MerRabbit]

On trish's blog it says that by using the time of 8:29 as sunset she was able to determine longitude. Following this I took the Lat/long coords of Denver, CO and messed around with them here: http://www.csgnetwork.com/sunriseset.html .


Sunset for Denver was 8:30.

39.733056
-104.766111 yields a sunset of 8:29 it is due east of Denver.
you can look it up through google or on this site:

http://hobbiton.thisside.net/advmap.html

edited: to refine data and for errors

[flutterby]

[UPDATE] New text message

[tygr20]

Re: [UPDATE] New text message

[mousekinn]

I don't know, Tygr, after walking for days, finding myself stranded in a tree house and too dumb to even TRY to mess with the radio, seeing signs of life and having no will or brains to try to get their attention (unless he's purposefully hiding?)... I'd be wanting to kill myself too.

(In all honestly, I saw the nod towards "eyes" - which seems to be so important to this game - and wondered the same

[Dunia]

I have a thought. Do you think we need to locate his position on the redeye map?

There are a few websites out there with listings of registered fire lookouts in each of those states. They are listed by decimal degrees, same as the redeye map.

[ThatPoshGirl]

Hey, remember the message that came through on the blackhills radio site from the kids that took over the tower?

[Draiocht]

Re: [UPDATE] New text message

[tygr20]

Re: [UPDATE] New text message

[tygr20]

New message, 4:44 EST-

"there's a helicopter above. it sees me"

Looks like he's been found.

[mousekinn]

Until they KILL HIM.

I keed. I keed.

Now I guess we turn our attention to finding the hour?

[smartmart]

multiple senders

[Blackbird]

Re: multiple senders