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Dunia
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2:33 PM pacific.

"two helicopters flew towards the sun just now"

On the map at that time were 2 UH-60s flying due north.

Very close coordinates were -104.13 , 45.706

PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 5:37 pm
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GenPatton43
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Re: [UPDATE] new text message

flutterby wrote:
Quote:
two helicopters flew towards the sun just now


received from 977-77
Feb 9, 4:32 pm EST





Redeye now has a flight of UH-60 transport helicopters moving N/NW

This flight of choopers appears to have coincided with the latest text message which states that "helicopters were flying towards the Sun.

The sender of the text messages appears to be in The Black Hills Area of S. Dakota and Wyoming.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 5:59 pm
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Dunia
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So here is my guess:

We have to locate his/her GPS position based on the position of the sun.

Someone check my logic here and see if I'm missing something.

I don't think the locations I posted of the helicopters on the map matter. He didn't say they were overhead, or how far away, or if they were to the east or west of him.
The only thing he says is there are 2 helicopters flying towards the sun.
On the map the helicopters were travelling almost due north. I saw them angle slightly to the east as they travelled north, but just barely. Patton posted N/NW, so maybe I missed part of their flight. Patton had the position in S. Dakota or Wyoming, while I had the helicopters in Montana when I got the text message.

Summer solstice for 2007 was on June 21st. That's when the sun is at it's most northern position in our hemisphere. So if the sun was due north, wouldn't the time of the text message be approximately his/her solar noon?

I've found some calculators out there that give sunrise, sunset and solar noon based on lat/lon, but nothing that does it in reverse.

PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 12:09 am
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MerRabbit
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On trish's blog it says that by using the time of 8:29 as sunset she was able to determine longitude. Following this I took the Lat/long coords of Denver, CO and messed around with them here: http://www.csgnetwork.com/sunriseset.html .


Sunset for Denver was 8:30.

39.733056
-104.766111 yields a sunset of 8:29 it is due east of Denver.
you can look it up through google or on this site:

http://hobbiton.thisside.net/advmap.html

edited: to refine data and for errors

PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 2:11 pm
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flutterby
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[UPDATE] New text message

Quote:
mosquitoes are everywhere. flies are in my eyes.
if i jump maybe i can solve everything


received from 977-77 Feb 10, 8:42 pm EST

PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:48 pm
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tygr20
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Re: [UPDATE] New text message

flutterby wrote:
Quote:
mosquitoes are everywhere. flies are in my eyes.
if i jump maybe i can solve everything


received from 977-77 Feb 10, 8:42 pm EST


Very odd... it almost sounds like our boy here is suicidal, and over mosquitoes and flies no less. I definitely think there's more here than meets the eye.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 10:47 pm
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mousekinn
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I don't know, Tygr, after walking for days, finding myself stranded in a tree house and too dumb to even TRY to mess with the radio, seeing signs of life and having no will or brains to try to get their attention (unless he's purposefully hiding?)... I'd be wanting to kill myself too.

(In all honestly, I saw the nod towards "eyes" - which seems to be so important to this game - and wondered the same Smile

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Dunia
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I have a thought. Do you think we need to locate his position on the redeye map?

There are a few websites out there with listings of registered fire lookouts in each of those states. They are listed by decimal degrees, same as the redeye map.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:44 am
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ThatPoshGirl
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Hey, remember the message that came through on the blackhills radio site from the kids that took over the tower?

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Draiocht
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Re: [UPDATE] New text message

tygr20 wrote:
flutterby wrote:
Quote:
mosquitoes are everywhere. flies are in my eyes.
if i jump maybe i can solve everything


received from 977-77 Feb 10, 8:42 pm EST


Very odd... it almost sounds like our boy here is suicidal, and over mosquitoes and flies no less. I definitely think there's more here than meets the eye.


It also sounds like he/she's near a body of water, perhaps a wetland or a lake. The Redeye map seems to show rivers and lakes. We can surmise he's not on the outskirts of Denver, so I'm going to search north and south along that longitude to find possible locations with: A body of water, in or near a state or national forest, with a watchtower in the general area, all at a rough distance of 30-45 miles from Cheyenne (I'm assuming Cheyenne WY) with few obstructions between them. Then I'll note the lat/long and compare it to the Redeye map.

Aside: I'm still getting these messages even though I texted for a stop. That's not what concerns me though. The thing is, I get them twice within a minute of each other instead of just once. Is anyone else getting duplicate messages?

PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 5:51 am
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tygr20
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Re: [UPDATE] New text message

Draiocht wrote:
Aside: I'm still getting these messages even though I texted for a stop. That's not what concerns me though. The thing is, I get them twice within a minute of each other instead of just once. Is anyone else getting duplicate messages?


The only thing I can think is that when you unsubscribed is that it misread it as a re-registration. I'm not only not getting dupes, but not getting some of the messages even once.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 10:31 am
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tygr20
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New message, 4:44 EST-

"there's a helicopter above. it sees me"

Looks like he's been found.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 5:45 pm
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mousekinn
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Until they KILL HIM.

I keed. I keed.

Now I guess we turn our attention to finding the hour?

PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 5:55 pm
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smartmart
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multiple senders
this time in the right thread...

Quote:
Hi,

Just realized that.
I have received the same text messages but from different phone# than those cited before.

What I received is:

from 1-705-507-8177
"9/2/08 7:14"
my sunrise just happened

from 1-705-507-8277
"9/2/08 16:32"
two helicopters flew towards the sun just now

from 1-705-507-3440
"08/02/08 22:36"
my sunset just happened@

"10/02/08 20:42"
mosquitoes are everywhere. flies are in my eyes. if i jump i can solve everything@

from 1-705-507-0147
"05/02/08 15:14"
there is food here. and two giant containers of water , how did they get them up here


Yesterday I posted this.

The new text message from today is from :
1-705-507-8277
"there's a helicopter above. it sees me"

Which is the same sender as :
"9/2/08 16:32"
two helicopters flew towards the sun just now

I find it strange that the possibility that we are presented multiple senders is not explorated much. I'm still trying to catch up on this ARG,so it is a bit difficult to connect some dots yet.

Edit: Also, I'm I the only one to have received "08/02/08 22:36"
my sunset just happened@ " and ""10/02/08 20:42"
mosquitoes are everywhere. flies are in my eyes. if i jump i can solve everything@" from 1-705-507-3440? The "@" seems redundant from this sender.

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Blackbird
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Re: multiple senders
this time in the right thread...

[quote="smartmart"]
Quote:
Hi,


Edit: Also, I'm I the only one to have received "08/02/08 22:36"
my sunset just happened@ " and ""10/02/08 20:42"
mosquitoes are everywhere. flies are in my eyes. if i jump i can solve everything@" from 1-705-507-3440? The "@" seems redundant from this sender.


Your not the only one to receive from actual numbers. I have as well. I have also received these messages. All of them (though some came through much later, an on-going issue with Bell) came to me. I got the messages from different cell numbers for different messages (as compared to yours). All the numbers, however, were the 'same'. None were different from the overall "list". Being registered to Rogers in Sudbury ON. I am almost now convinced that they are just 'block' numbers kept by Rogers for SMS. My only caveat to this is that you can call the number, no answer, but not what I would expect if it was a SMS transmit number.


EDIT: I also received one from 705-507-8377.

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