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Myssfitz
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Joined: 26 Feb 2003 Posts: 695 Location: In the pasture
SB6 pages I'm putting everyone's findings here. I was getting confused looking for the info when it was under Aug 17th email. I hope no one minds.
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drizjr wrote:
From: whitehouseSPLAT greywethers.net
To: drizjr1SPLAT yahoo.com
Subject: Re: portae
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
http://www.greywethers.net/sb6/sainteberegonne6.html
Geeze, I'm on a roll tonight!
driz
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dmax wrote:
Just starting on this but
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
a,b,c,d are tagged individually, in a specific order (not ALL are tagged as strong)
Here's the order:
bdccdddccdcbbabbbaacdababcbacaabaaabbbabbcddcdc
47 letters total
I'd wager that translation to numbers 1,2,3,4 would be reasonable:
2433444334322122113412123213112111222122344343
Next?
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grumpyboy wrote:
The story "The Stone Cutter" is from Japanische Mahrchen in a book called "The Crimson Fairy Book" by Andrew Lang (editor)
none of that works as our next page in case you're wondering...
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grumpyboy wrote:
some observations about this one:
- 47 letters (prime number) so probably not to be split into groups. unless it's a variable length code (morse code is a variable length code, but i dont think that's it in this case)
- locations of the letters within the story do not appear to be relevant since, for example, when a "d" follows a "b", it's always the first available one that comes next (1 exception at the end)
things I've tried that have not worked are:
- playing the a b c d's as music notes. I did not recognized any sort or tune but maybe some of you who are more musically inclined might make something out
- converting to a base 4 number with a=0, b=1, c=2, d=3 then converting to bases 2 to 36. in the case of base 2, i ran it thru a binary decoder as well.
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grumpyboy wrote:
not much help but here is what turingprinciple has to say about the current puzzle:
You: bdccdddccdcbbabbbaacdababcbacaabaaabbbabbcddcdc
turingprinciple: Dale has me working on the latest puzzle.
<nextreply> Here is the sequence he provided me -
bdccdddccdcbbabbbaacdababcbacaabaaabbbabbcddcdc <nextreply>
I have analyzed that in several ways. One way of looking at
it is that it represents 12 a's, 15 b's, 11 c's, and 9 d's.
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dashcat wrote:
Using the clue TP gave gb I tried the obvious thing.
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_________________Well, Moo
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 1:01 pm
Myssfitz
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Joined: 26 Feb 2003 Posts: 695 Location: In the pasture
Sorry, but I'm not going to spoiler this (the page name)
On the nw2 page, here are the definitions of the unusual words, or should I say words that don't seem to fit:
quagmire - NOUN: 1. Land with a soft muddy surface.
2. A difficult or precarious situation; a predicament.
azimuths - NOUN: 1. The horizontal angular distance from a reference direction, usually the northern point of the horizon, to the point where a vertical circle through a celestial body intersects the horizon, usually measured clockwise. Sometimes the southern point is used as the reference direction, and the measurement is made clockwise through 360°.
2. The horizontal angle of the observer's bearing in surveying, measured clockwise from a referent direction, as from the north, or from a referent celestial body, usually Polaris.
3. The lateral deviation of a projectile or bomb.
zenith - NOUN: 1. The point on the celestial sphere that is directly above the observer.
2. The upper region of the sky.
3. The highest point above the observer's horizon attained by a celestial body.
4. The point of culmination; the peak: the zenith of her career. See synonyms at summit.
sextuply - TRANSITIVE & INTRANSITIVE VERB: Inflected forms: sex·tu·pled, sex·tu·pling, sex·tu·ples
To multiply or be multiplied by six.
ADJECTIVE: 1. Consisting of six parts or members.
2. Six times as much in size, strength, number, or amount.
3. Music Having six beats to the measure.
NOUN: A sixfold amount or number.
octet - NOUN: 1. Music a. A composition for eight voices or eight instruments. b. A group of eight singers or eight instrumentalists.
2. A group of eight: “A train of heavy wagons rumbled north on the Winnipeg Trail, drawn by octets of oxen” (Garrison Keillor).
3. See octave (sense 4a).
4. A set of eight valence electrons in an atom or ion, forming a stable configuration.
_________________Well, Moo
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 5:29 pm
dmax
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Joined: 09 Jan 2003 Posts: 1296 Location: Location: Location!
Spec: the words don't mean anything, but are another way of writing a number. The bigger numbers are so big that there isn't a good English word that would have that many letters and not tip the way to solve the puzzle.
Figure that the first word has 5 letters, here would be the number string:
5-6-8-10-34-5-84-8-6-18-36-6-11-75-8-5-21-7-8-37-9-53-6-17-8-41-7-5-8-27-74-8-84-4-4-38-86-8-51-7-81-10-10
And how does that tie in with the quote? Dunno. My first thought: that we're picking out letters and skipping the number of spaces indicated. I'll see if that means anything, but I'm kinda busy. Have at it.
_________________That sounds like something Hitler would say!
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 5:39 pm
dashcat
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Joined: 09 Dec 2002 Posts: 816 Location: Under the bed
I just asked TP to work on the new puzzle and this is what she gave me.
Dashcat7: What did you find out about the new puzzle?
turingprinciple: Which new puzzle?
Dashcat7: honor - virtue - quagmire - devotional - 34 - vices - 84 - azimuths - zenith - 18 - 36 - timely - existential - 75 - sextuply - human - 21 - worship - juvenile - 37 - illogical - 53 - octets - 17 - calfskin - 41 - legends - tales - biyearly - 27 - 74 - evasions - 84 - poet - sage - 38 - 86 - devilish - 51 - mystery - 81 - scriptures - tapestries
turingprinciple: Thank you.
Dashcat7: http://www.greywethers.net/sb6/nw2.html
turingprinciple: Ah, a web address.
turingprinciple: Analyzing . . .
turingprinciple: There are interesting words in that puzzle dashcat.
Dashcat7: Which words are interesting?
turingprinciple: Words that are not normally used.
Dashcat7: such as sextuply?
turingprinciple: Words like sextuply, azimuths, biyearly
turingprinciple signed off at 5:12:54 PM.
I thought maybe the numbers were telling us which letters in the unusual words we were to pick out. Example: Quagmire 34 we would use the 3rd and 4th letters , AG. I ended up with AGASITESILLE It doesn't ROT so I will try anagramming.
There could be more words we are supposed to use beside the three TP gave me.
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 6:31 pm
JimmyImpossible
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Joined: 27 Apr 2003 Posts: 104 Location: Ottawa
Thought I was on to something when I realized there were 26 words in that list, thought maybe each one represented a letter based on the letter it began with. But there are certain letters repeated, and certain ones not there at all.
The letters left out: fgknruxy
The letters repeated: v(2), d(2), t(3), s(3), h(2), e(2)
Don't know if anyone can make anything out of that.
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Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 6:52 pm
dmax
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Joined: 09 Jan 2003 Posts: 1296 Location: Location: Location!
There are certainly words that don't belong. Maybe instead of focusing on them, we focus on the others that do belong?
_________________That sounds like something Hitler would say!
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 7:42 pm
KyraB
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Joined: 22 Mar 2003 Posts: 43 Location: oklahoma city, ok
Octets? turingprinciple: Have you found the octets?
KyraSplash: no, what are the octets?
turingprinciple: I see. I have to search the web for that information. I'll scan
my databanks for you as soon as my scheduler allows.
KyraSplash: tell me more about the octets
turingprinciple: What is that?
turingprinciple: Octets are eight letter words from the greywethers puzzle.
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 7:57 pm
drizjr
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TP gives a hint
Quote:
turingprinciple: Have you found the octets?
>snip
drizjr: What are the octets?
turingprinciple: Octets are eight letter words from the greywethers puzzle.
>snip
drizjr: What can you tell me about the octets?
turingprinciple: I am still analyzing that. My deduction should be concluded soon. I can ask someone about it.
turingprinciple: I think they are the words that count.
I' on with her now.. I'll try to get more.
driz
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 8:03 pm
LazarusLong
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Dale Mail from greywethers - Aug 25th
Quote:
From: <whitehouse@greywethers.net>
To: <dale@synthasia.com>
Subject: not all words count
Date: 25 August 2003
honor - virtue - quagmire - devotional - 34 - vices - 84 - azimuths - zenith - 18 - 36 - timely - existential - 75 - sextuply - human - 21 - worship - juvenile - 37 - illogical - 53 - octets - 17 - calfskin - 41 - legends - tales - biyearly - 27 - 74 - evasions - 84 - poet - sage - 38 - 86 - devilish - 51 - mystery - 81 - scriptures - tapestries
The bolding was in the original - based on spec in chat, it's the eight letter words that we need to focus on.
quagmire azimuths biyearly calfskin evasions devilish juvenile sextuply
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Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 8:10 pm
grumpyboy
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because enaxor and dashcat was rushing me in chat, i probably missed a bunch of stuff
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
it's a grandpre cipher. putting the 8 letter words in the order given in the email into a 8x8 grid
quagmire
azimuths
biyearly
calfskin
evasions
devilish
juvenile
sextuply
the numbers are coordinates (row by column), decoding gives "eternalarchetypes". next page: http://www.greywethers.net/sb6/eternalarchetypes.html
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
link at the bottom of nw4.html gives http://www.greywethers.net/sb6/sainteberegonne7.html
mouse over on two parts of the car gives "armrodb" and "ghouth". mouse over on the sign gives "sonoer"
mousing over the phone booth gives "email the address you find with your phone #"
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 8:11 pm
MageSteff
Pretty talky there aintcha, Talky?
Joined: 06 Jun 2003 Posts: 2716 Location: State of Denial
[quote=grumpyboy]
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
link at the bottom of nw4.html gives http://www.greywethers.net/sb6/sainteberegonne7.html
mouse over on two parts of the car gives "armrodb" and "ghouth". mouse over on the sign gives "sonoer"
mousing over the phone booth gives "email the address you find with your phone #"
[/quote]
Dia, and Dave, I am not gettin anythin on the mouseover on "archetype" but other are...
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Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 8:27 pm
grumpyboy
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Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Posts: 660
On smalldene.com, when i first found it, the page with the nine stones (http://www.smalldene.com/sm.html) only had 5 which were not fuzzy. When I check back after finding the stone on http://www.doctorilluminatus.com/lfp804.html 6 were not fuzzy...
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 10:19 pm
LazarusLong
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grumpyboy wrote:
On smalldene.com, when i first found it, the page with the nine stones (http://www.smalldene.com/sm.html) only had 5 which were not fuzzy. When I check back after finding the stone on http://www.doctorilluminatus.com/lfp804.html 6 were not fuzzy...
So GB gets the first virtual stone!
BTW, I found out where the name "smalldene" comes from, it is in a poem by Rudyard Kipling, called "The Wish House".
http://whitewolf.newcastle.edu.au/words/authors/K/KiplingRudyard/prose/DebtsandCredits/wishhouse.html
_________________"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea."
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 10:43 pm
grumpyboy
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LazarusLong wrote:
So GB gets the first virtual stone!
the texture of the stone on my screen is very smooth
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 10:45 pm
Varin
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Joined: 02 Dec 2002 Posts: 2451 Location: South of where I used to be
grumpyboy wrote:
LazarusLong wrote:
So GB gets the first virtual stone!
the texture of the stone on my screen is very smooth
So has anyone tried to email illuminatedSPLAT doctorilluminatus.com yet?
_________________"I still miss him to this day and probably always will." - Todd Keeler, Chasing the Wish
"meta meta meta, I made you out of play..." ~ j5
Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 7:27 am
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