Return to Unfiction unforum
 a.r.g.b.b 
 Calendar Calendar   FAQ FAQ   Search Search   Memberlist Memberlist   Usergroups Usergroups 
 Register Register   Log in Log in 
 
Welcome!
New users, PLEASE read these forum guidelines. New posters, SEARCH before posting and read these rules before posting your killer new campaign. New players may also wish to peruse the ARG Player Tutorial.

All users must abide by the Terms of Service.
This week sponsored by:

You?

Why do we need your help?
Announcements
What is an ARG?
Read imbri's Quickstart Guide
 
The time now is Sat May 25, 2013 2:31 am
All times are UTC - 6
View posts in this forum since last visit
View unanswered posts in this forum
Calendar
 Forum index » Archive » Archive: General » ARG: Silver Ladder
The Hegelian Korporation
Moderators: Administrators
Post new topic   Reply to topic View previous topicMark the topic unreadView next topic
Page 1 of 1 [3 Posts]  
Author Message
Wittgenstein
Veteran

Joined: 01 Oct 2007
Posts: 109
Location: Buffalo, NY

 The Hegelian Korporation
hegel was a dirty marxist.

thx for calling me out, loli, i'm a lazy lazy philosopher. (actually a very busy one, but that's kind of beside the point.) >:}

anyway, for anyone who wants to make the slog, i found this very concise (and, imho, correct) interpretation of the hegelian economics of poverty. it's a pretty easy read, but a little bit long, and loaded with philosophy-isms and economics-isms, so if you don't feel like reading it, i don't blame you.

i thought loli's question about investigating similarities and differences between The Korporation and the hegelian korporation was a good one. however, seeing as though hegel was a dirty marxist (no offense, i'm being facetious) the picture doesn't quite fit.

in hegel, the korporation is an intermediate organization between private and public social structures (i think he terms them family and society). the korporation can be anything - anderson cites medieval guilds as historical examples. they function as organizations to create a sense of belonging in the member, and also an outlet for political, social, and economic activity. hegel's conception is specifically geared toward the poor and the role of a korporation to eliminate poverty.

he recognizes that centrally managed economies are clunky things, and the korporation is specifically extra-political -- they have political activity, but the korporation itself is not a part of the government. members of a korporation implicitly "have a heightened consciousness of shared goals and mutual interdependence" (anderson 14).

while the korporation is a benevolent body, it is worth noting that hegel thought that, for stability's sake, a korporation should place limits on the numbers and kinds of people it would allow to join its ranks. this is for balance, the idea being that if a korporation has a variety of professions, it is likely to prevent fluctuations in employment and production.

the goal of the hegelian korporation is economic stability and consumer responsibility. hegel's responsible consumer (konsumer?) is rational, self-conscious (that is, conscious of the effects of his actions) and ethically reflective. hegel's consumer places importance on his responsibility to the korporation's other members to prevent things like shortages, severe price fluctuations, and other difficulties of a pure capitalist economic system.

i really don't think that The Korporation is modeled after the writing of hegel. i think that it's a coincidence that hegel spelled korporation with a k and The Korporation thinks it looks cool.
_________________
L.W.

what can be said at all can be said clearly; and whereof one cannot speak
thereof one must be silent.

the noise of the street enters the house.


PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 11:09 am
 View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website AIM Address
 Mark this and the following posts unread Back to top 
JaeDom
Decorated


Joined: 09 Sep 2007
Posts: 225
Location: SouCal

Re: The Hegelian Korporation
hegel was a dirty marxist.

Wittgenstein wrote:

i really don't think that The Korporation is modeled after the writing of hegel. i think that it's a coincidence that hegel spelled korporation with a k and The Korporation thinks it looks cool.




I thought about this too. Good writing. My findings and final thoughts about the similarities were inconclusive, though I probably have to agree with your thought here.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:24 am
 View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger MSN Messenger
 ICQ Number 
 Mark this and the following posts unread Back to top 
eranmane
Veteran

Joined: 12 Jul 2007
Posts: 119

Seriously dudes, the Korps appear to be the exact opposites of each other.

SilverLadder Korporation:
Quote:
As soon as a business becomes so absolutely large that it loses touch with its own customers, loses touch with its own employees – that is when it becomes korporation. When it treats you like you’re replaceable, that is when it becomes korporation.

Helgel Korporation:
Quote:
they function as organizations to create a sense of belonging in the member


PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 1:05 pm
 View user's profile Send private message
 Mark this and the following posts unread Back to top 
Display posts from previous:   Sort by:   
Page 1 of 1 [3 Posts]  
Post new topic   Reply to topic View previous topicMark the topic unreadView next topic
 Forum index » Archive » Archive: General » ARG: Silver Ladder
Jump to:  

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum
You cannot post calendar events in this forum



Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group