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xnbomb
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Mother Maya

The odd versions on the numbers on the set of the stickers on the right look like the Maya Numerals to me (attached image from Wikipedia via the GFDL). And this would fit nicely with the mention of the sun god on the letter.
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Will 2.0
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In mayan, (Great job on that by the way) the numbers match the ones on the left side. Still...

2072469 7187
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Woo, nice job in starting a wiki for this already. Soon PMs will learn that they can set up accounts and wikis to announce launches on their own there. Keeping unfiction free from any TOS violations of PMs posting about their own game.

It doesn't have to be new launches either. This is a place where PMs or BTS people can post about an ongoing game. That way they don't have to break the ToS here at unfiction.

This despoiler site is growing on me.

Although the name isn't my favorite. Smile
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Hey guys, sorry to burst your bubble on the strange shadowy shape on the reverse of the letter, but that's just part of the lid of my scanner showing through the thin paper. Wink

ETA: http://random.despoiler.org is just a miscellaneous wiki, not directed at this particular game. It was just a convenient place to post the pics. Wink
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XDDDDD THAT is hilarious.
I literally lmaoed when you said that.

So, our only clue so far, is the fact that this is related to Mayan Culture in some way. (the mayan numbers on the bar codes)
Toonan mentions the sun god, and the Mayan Sun God is named Kin or Kinich Ahau, according to http://www.jaguar-sun.com/gods-2.html

So.... We have a Mayan ARG?

EDIT: Just a stab, but it might be of note: The 0 isn't in Maya.... Could be nothin'....
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Luemnus
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Could the 'stars' and other things within the bar code be the shape of a constellation, perhaps?

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Shiningfist
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Luemnus wrote:
Could the 'stars' and other things within the bar code be the shape of a constellation, perhaps?


Already traced them, didn't turn out to any constellation that I know of

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Here are the numbers that the missing stars are over.
Could be nothin'.

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2469

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Luemnus
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Also.. If 0 isn't in Mayan, then that removes one number, leaving (obviously) 272469 7187, which could turn into 272-469-7187. A phone number without the 1 signifying long-distance calls.. At least, I was thinking that until I googled area-codes and found http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_North_American_area_codes which says that 272 isn't used.

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Working of the PS message, I looked up I-53 and I-35, but didn't find anything worth noting; except I-53 doesn't exist.
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I think this might have something to do with the Mayan calender some the important numbers might be dates on the calender this site lets you convert Georgian dates into Maya ones.

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some info relating to the Mayans and the Sun. I know this may not relate specifically, but i figure it wouldnt hurt...



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The Sun
The Maya Sun God is frequently illustrated on monuments of the Classical era (250-900 AD) and in post-Classical (900-1514 AD) glyph books (codices). The identifying features of the god include a four-parted k'in ("day") sign, a squinting eye, and protruding filed tooth. The most common solar icon (left) has a human face. A jaguar-faced Sun God (right) may represent the sun at night, during its sojourn in the Underworld.

The Sun God is the most ancient Maya deity that can be identified in the archaeological record. Massive stucco masks recently discovered at the pre-Classical Maya city of Cival, Guatemala (200-150 BC) depict the Sun God.

The sun was a symbol of royal authority in the Classical period. Kings often bear the solar title K'inich Ahaw (Sun-eyed Lord). This was also likely the name of the Sun God.

In Yucatec and Chol, the languages of the Maya script, k'in means both "day" and "sun." The symbolic k'in sign (right) probably represents a day-blooming flower. It is most commonly encountered in dates: Together with a number, it is a count of days. The glyphs at left substitute the head of the Sun God for the k'in sign. The prefix is the zero glyph, representing a count of "zero days." More about calendrical glyphs




EDIT: When Tom says "always look for what you are mssng" do you think he may be referring to the punctuation in the letter as well?

I noticed there are three "."'s that are missing.

One after the word "again"

Another after the "ps"

The last is after the word "mssng"


So that means there(edit: three) dots and two "i"s are missing. Could this add to the morse code? Just a thought...

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Down for the (long) count

Chronus_Valtiel wrote:
EDIT: Just a stab, but it might be of note: The 0 isn't in Maya.... Could be nothin'....

That is interesting to think about, because researchers have been interested in how ancient cultures conceptualized and represented the notion of zero. The Mayans apparently used an image of shell, presumably to denote something that was once full and is now empty (cribbing from the Zero section of the Maya Numerals wikipedia article).

As to how it pertains / is portrayed here: A little empty shell icon next to all the rest would have looked really weird, but that open dot is almost an empty shell; it's a zero -- something with nothing inside it.

And I like the idea that this might pertain to a date or some such via the Long Count calendar ... we just have to figure out how to make that work.
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Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Some basic 'clues':

Envelope: Tooman - Letter: 2 man (too many?)
Letter: missing is missing it's I's (mssng)
Barcodes: The 'Mayan' ones are missing 4 stars, and have a box around it.


Surely those have to fit together in some sort of logical order to come up with something.
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Shiningfist
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Okay, this could be an very odd coincidence but, using the site above, i converted 262 469 7187 into a Mayan date. the results were 2 Men and 8 Zip.

2 Men could possibly point to 2man/Tooman in some way Confused

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