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HetMasteen
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Giskard wrote:
Good detective work all around here people...

The problem we seem to be having now is that we have no idea what to do with all the speculation and possible related information or even how to verify we're on the right path... I mean, are we looking for a new website, are we looking for a page on ajkin.net, are we looking for someone to e-mail, or a password, etc.

Wouldn't you agree that our best guess might be that we're looking for another keyword or keyphrase to input into the "barcode" textbox? Has anyone tried entering any other information there after we discovered the 'red cloud' passphrase?

The thing with this game so far is that it is done very 'clean', and there have been no hints, clues or leads so far, for example, hidden in the page source or deductible from filenames. This makes me think that the passphrase-input box on ajkin.net might be used for more than unlocking just the one page we found now... unless that's been disproved by the decompiling of the flash? (It might just link to another Flash file or page after a correct passphrase?)


Well, I've given this much thought myself.
Given this game's clean and streamlined nature, I tried to turn our clues into different passwords on ajkin.com, which led me to a conclusion: It seems to me that we have a missing link between our clues and this password. I doubt we'll just discover that one of the dots on the sat map was located on jumping frog reservation (I just made that one up for dramatic effect), and just enter "jumping frog" in the text box. I believe there might be a missing link of sorts. i.e a clue will lead us to a site with more barcodes, or something like that. All clues so far have been very sleek, and I doubt they'll revert to something as clumsy as password fishing... doesn't really add much that Giskard hasn't said, but I thought I'd maybe save some of you hours and hours of frustrating password guesses.
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tygr20
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Offering useless help, once again :)

Taking off from where Giskard was talking about the flash, I'm no expert in flash, but from breaking it down I can safely say we've seen everything there is to see within ajkin for now. I don't think another password will give us anything right now. Interestingly- within test.swf, the map image has changed altogether. There's no wasted info within the file- for now. Anyone with flash experience care to take a second look? I'm clueless when it comes to the scripts.
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drizjr
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xnbomb posted the Mayan translation of ajkin as "priest, diviner". A google search of "aj k'in" mayan further reveals that this means "The Sun Priest".
The letters that SpaceBass and Scrappy received mentioned the Sun God.
Just further confirmation of whose the author of the site.

Having said that, it makes me wonder, where in the www is Tom 2man?.

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ncfriend
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fabulous 1860s Map of Wi/Mi

Fabo 1860 map here:
http://www.davidrumsey.com/maps2914.html

also there's an interesting 1835 US Map by Barber, BB & Willard,A. that you might want to take a look at... check out the directory of maps at this site.

eta.. remind me never to tell yall about a site till i'm finished with it... wowsers did the server start dragging or WHAT?

also eta: i know this may be too obvious to be anything but what about BAYS? Sister Bay and Sturgeon Bay are on the peninsula beside Green Bay. Bayfield(a city) and Chequamegon Bay is at La Pointe, Wi, and the dot smack dab in between Escanaba and Haiawatha SP, is between Portage Bay and Bay de NOC. I know that's about as generic as saying LIGHTHOUSES...but it was a passing thought....
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mortality
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Re: fabulous 1860s Map of Wi/Mi

ncfriend wrote:

also eta: i know this may be too obvious to be anything but what about BAYS?...I know that's about as generic as saying LIGHTHOUSES...but it was a passing thought....


The problem is we haven't figured out what we need to be looking for. A new password for the ajkin site? A new website altogether? Without that, no matter what the clues are, we'll struggle.

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illspirit
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Re: fabulous 1860s Map of Wi/Mi

mortality wrote:
ncfriend wrote:

also eta: i know this may be too obvious to be anything but what about BAYS?...I know that's about as generic as saying LIGHTHOUSES...but it was a passing thought....


The problem is we haven't figured out what we need to be looking for. A new password for the ajkin site? A new website altogether? Without that, no matter what the clues are, we'll struggle.


There are no other valid passwords for the site. I've decompiled the flash and we've already seen everything in it.

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DeadbyDawn
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Map
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The new spots on the map are not just dots. If you zoom in on them and wait until the "static" thing happens, you'll see them.
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ArchaicDome
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Dude.

They look like eyes. Or contour lnes on a topographic map denoting hilltops. The closer the lines get, the steeper, and each line represents a linear distance, like 20miles, depending on the map.
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DeadbyDawn
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Topography

Not likely they are topographical, since one of them is in the water but, good thought, keep digging.

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Chronus_Valtiel
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Doesn't topography also measure water depth in the same way?
I'm not sure, but it would seem that way, I guess....
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DeadbyDawn
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Not normally, unless it's an area thats below sea level but, not covered in water. Or if you're looking at map STRICTLY of water depths. I've never seen a map that showed both.

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HetMasteen
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Re: Topography

DeadbyDawn wrote:
Not likely they are topographical, since one of them is in the water but, good thought, keep digging.


Actually, my Google Earthing revealed that all the dots that appear to be on water are, in fact, islands. So I guess topography could be a possibility. But, once again, what do we do with it?
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Chronus_Valtiel
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That's the question.
SO many questions, so little answers.
We've really gone nowhere since the red cloud site and somehow the PM has shown us a place more vague than the bar codes....
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Beef Supreme
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I don't have a list in front of me, but I'm pretty sure when I was zooming in on the new spots in google earth all but one i think corresponded to an island. I'll go back and do it again later this evening and see if I can work up a list.

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ncfriend
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From what I can tell..
The Door (the peninsula beside Green Bay) isnt an island, and it has two circles (or eyes). Even if the northern most circle was on the island (debatable at best) the southern one isnt.
The 'thumb' up and to the left of La Pointe that has the larger circle within the circle and the square/diamond shape is mainland. I think the larger circle/circle is probably Valhalla (Mount Valhalla).
Then the one east of Escanaba is the thumb of land that is now Haiwatha National Forest.
Grand Island is i think the only island, i think....

but then, i've been known to be wrong before... Smile
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