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Chronus_Valtiel
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Here are the numbers that the missing stars are over.
Could be nothin'.

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2469

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Luemnus
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Also.. If 0 isn't in Mayan, then that removes one number, leaving (obviously) 272469 7187, which could turn into 272-469-7187. A phone number without the 1 signifying long-distance calls.. At least, I was thinking that until I googled area-codes and found http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_North_American_area_codes which says that 272 isn't used.

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Working of the PS message, I looked up I-53 and I-35, but didn't find anything worth noting; except I-53 doesn't exist.
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Shiningfist
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I think this might have something to do with the Mayan calender some the important numbers might be dates on the calender this site lets you convert Georgian dates into Maya ones.

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sMooTH WuN
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some info relating to the Mayans and the Sun. I know this may not relate specifically, but i figure it wouldnt hurt...



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The Sun
The Maya Sun God is frequently illustrated on monuments of the Classical era (250-900 AD) and in post-Classical (900-1514 AD) glyph books (codices). The identifying features of the god include a four-parted k'in ("day") sign, a squinting eye, and protruding filed tooth. The most common solar icon (left) has a human face. A jaguar-faced Sun God (right) may represent the sun at night, during its sojourn in the Underworld.

The Sun God is the most ancient Maya deity that can be identified in the archaeological record. Massive stucco masks recently discovered at the pre-Classical Maya city of Cival, Guatemala (200-150 BC) depict the Sun God.

The sun was a symbol of royal authority in the Classical period. Kings often bear the solar title K'inich Ahaw (Sun-eyed Lord). This was also likely the name of the Sun God.

In Yucatec and Chol, the languages of the Maya script, k'in means both "day" and "sun." The symbolic k'in sign (right) probably represents a day-blooming flower. It is most commonly encountered in dates: Together with a number, it is a count of days. The glyphs at left substitute the head of the Sun God for the k'in sign. The prefix is the zero glyph, representing a count of "zero days." More about calendrical glyphs




EDIT: When Tom says "always look for what you are mssng" do you think he may be referring to the punctuation in the letter as well?

I noticed there are three "."'s that are missing.

One after the word "again"

Another after the "ps"

The last is after the word "mssng"


So that means there(edit: three) dots and two "i"s are missing. Could this add to the morse code? Just a thought...

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Down for the (long) count

Chronus_Valtiel wrote:
EDIT: Just a stab, but it might be of note: The 0 isn't in Maya.... Could be nothin'....

That is interesting to think about, because researchers have been interested in how ancient cultures conceptualized and represented the notion of zero. The Mayans apparently used an image of shell, presumably to denote something that was once full and is now empty (cribbing from the Zero section of the Maya Numerals wikipedia article).

As to how it pertains / is portrayed here: A little empty shell icon next to all the rest would have looked really weird, but that open dot is almost an empty shell; it's a zero -- something with nothing inside it.

And I like the idea that this might pertain to a date or some such via the Long Count calendar ... we just have to figure out how to make that work.
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EmmanuelGoldstein
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Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Some basic 'clues':

Envelope: Tooman - Letter: 2 man (too many?)
Letter: missing is missing it's I's (mssng)
Barcodes: The 'Mayan' ones are missing 4 stars, and have a box around it.


Surely those have to fit together in some sort of logical order to come up with something.
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Shiningfist
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Okay, this could be an very odd coincidence but, using the site above, i converted 262 469 7187 into a Mayan date. the results were 2 Men and 8 Zip.

2 Men could possibly point to 2man/Tooman in some way Confused

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Well, I tried using the first bit of the barcode as a phone number with Lame Deer's area code in the hopes that the last four numbers might be an extension, but no go. The number worked, but there was no answer and a generic answering machine.

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Shiningfist
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sMooTH WuN wrote:
some info relating to the Mayans and the Sun. I know this may not relate specifically, but i figure it wouldnt hurt...



Quote:
The Sun
The Maya Sun God is frequently illustrated on monuments of the Classical era (250-900 AD) and in post-Classical (900-1514 AD) glyph books (codices). The identifying features of the god include a four-parted k'in ("day") sign, a squinting eye, and protruding filed tooth. The most common solar icon (left) has a human face. A jaguar-faced Sun God (right) may represent the sun at night, during its sojourn in the Underworld.

The Sun God is the most ancient Maya deity that can be identified in the archaeological record. Massive stucco masks recently discovered at the pre-Classical Maya city of Cival, Guatemala (200-150 BC) depict the Sun God.

The sun was a symbol of royal authority in the Classical period. Kings often bear the solar title K'inich Ahaw (Sun-eyed Lord). This was also likely the name of the Sun God.

In Yucatec and Chol, the languages of the Maya script, k'in means both "day" and "sun." The symbolic k'in sign (right) probably represents a day-blooming flower. It is most commonly encountered in dates: Together with a number, it is a count of days. The glyphs at left substitute the head of the Sun God for the k'in sign. The prefix is the zero glyph, representing a count of "zero days." More about calendrical glyphs




EDIT: When Tom says "always look for what you are mssng" do you think he may be referring to the punctuation in the letter as well?

I noticed there are three "."'s that are missing.

One after the word "again"

Another after the "ps"

The last is after the word "mssng"


So that means there(edit: three) dots and two "i"s are missing. Could this add to the morse code? Just a thought...


Well, i found that "..." in morse code translates to S....where could S be added?

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Shiningfist wrote:
sMooTH WuN wrote:

EDIT: When Tom says "always look for what you are mssng" do you think he may be referring to the punctuation in the letter as well?

I noticed there are three "."'s that are missing.

One after the word "again"

Another after the "ps"

The last is after the word "mssng"

So that means there(edit: three) dots and two "i"s are missing. Could this add to the morse code? Just a thought...


Well, i found that "..." in morse code translates to S....where could S be added?


Or three dots over two bars? as in ... II since all of the letters are capitalized. That would be 13 in the Mayan numerals. Or maybe 14 since, doesn't PS usually have two periods in it? P.S.

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degravity wrote:
Shiningfist wrote:
sMooTH WuN wrote:

EDIT: When Tom says "always look for what you are mssng" do you think he may be referring to the punctuation in the letter as well?

I noticed there are three "."'s that are missing.

One after the word "again"

Another after the "ps"

The last is after the word "mssng"

So that means there(edit: three) dots and two "i"s are missing. Could this add to the morse code? Just a thought...


Well, i found that "..." in morse code translates to S....where could S be added?


Or three dots over two bars? as in ... II since all of the letters are capitalized. That would be 13 in the Mayan numerals. Or maybe 14 since, doesn't PS usually have two periods in it? P.S.


p.s. (2 dots)

again. (1 dot)

mssng. ( 1 dots)


it adds up to "...." which translates to H.


hmmm....now we have to figure THIS out.

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sMooTH WuN
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degravity wrote:
Shiningfist wrote:
sMooTH WuN wrote:

EDIT: When Tom says "always look for what you are mssng" do you think he may be referring to the punctuation in the letter as well?

I noticed there are three "."'s that are missing.

One after the word "again"

Another after the "ps"

The last is after the word "mssng"

So that means there(edit: three) dots and two "i"s are missing. Could this add to the morse code? Just a thought...


Well, i found that "..." in morse code translates to S....where could S be added?


Or three dots over two bars? as in ... II since all of the letters are capitalized. That would be 13 in the Mayan numerals. Or maybe 14 since, doesn't PS usually have two periods in it? P.S.



your right, so its 4 missing dots and two i's.. so if we put it in order it would be:

(again).

would 2 man need a dash? like 2(-)man?

(P).(S).

(mssng) i i .


im not too good with morse code but if you turned the i's on their side, doesnt that equate for anything?

if put together.. it would be

. - . . i i .


if you turned the i's on their side wouldnt it look like this : ".-"

if thats the case then...

. - . . . - . - . <--- mean anything?



EDIT:

Quote:
Barcodes: The 'Mayan' ones are missing 4 stars, and have a box around it.



4 missing stars (in the barcode), 4 missing periods (in the letter)

prolly nothin, but anyone think it relates?

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sMooTH WuN wrote:
degravity wrote:
Shiningfist wrote:
sMooTH WuN wrote:

EDIT: When Tom says "always look for what you are mssng" do you think he may be referring to the punctuation in the letter as well?

I noticed there are three "."'s that are missing.

One after the word "again"

Another after the "ps"

The last is after the word "mssng"

So that means there(edit: three) dots and two "i"s are missing. Could this add to the morse code? Just a thought...


Well, i found that "..." in morse code translates to S....where could S be added?


Or three dots over two bars? as in ... II since all of the letters are capitalized. That would be 13 in the Mayan numerals. Or maybe 14 since, doesn't PS usually have two periods in it? P.S.



your right, so its 4 missing dots and two i's.. so if we put it in order it would be:

(again).

would 2 man need a dash? like 2(-)man?

(P).(S).

(mssng) i i .


im not too good with morse code but if you turned the i's on their side, doesnt that equate for anything?

if put together.. it would be

. - . . i i .


if you turned the i's on their side wouldnt it look like this : ".-"

if thats the case then...

. - . . . - . - . <--- mean anything?




ETEEETETE

Thats what


. - . . . - . - .

translates to....i have no i dea what it means....

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It's not just missing dots. Remember, the base of the "i" is missing as well. In case you're wondering, . . . . - in morse code is 4. Does that mean anything to anyone?

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