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[INTERACTION] Email from Bryan
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Aeon
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Just heard back from Bryan. Long e-mail with lots of linguistic happiness. Saddly my nicely justified translations got garbled in transit (I'll probably resend it to Bryan tomorrow in a text file to keep everything straight).

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
This is a very nice, long email Travis. I see you have put much
work into your attempts to translate this language. I'll do what I
can to assist you. At this time of night I'm a little groggy and
could use some sleep, so forgive me if I don't get to the entire
email.

Ra nednai ny takma peynin hasya keilyn

ny moquin
to understand? the end people? must know?
the
beginning?
- ------------------------------
Very good effort, I applaud you indeed:
To understand the end, man must know the beginning

- ------------------------------

Teyailn vyl esun mrkzai di
peynin
there was(were)? three? civilization(s) of people?

- -----------------------------
Again very, very good: There was one civilization of _____ you
got that one I assume.

- -----------------------------
di Gai teyailn vyl Lanti teyailn vyl

La en masi ust awlyn
of Earth? there was? Atlantis there was? ??
and
?? ?? ??
- -----------------------------
I am extremely impressed Travis:
of earth, there was Atlantis, There was God, and then came others.

It seems as though that should say and then came THE others, but
that is only trying to assert grammar.

The rest of the message seems somewhat scattered, but I did make
out a few of your attempts to translate. Yes tei translates to is,
and I believe I read one more possible translation that appeared
correct off the top of my head I believe it was convince, but I'm
not entirely sure of that at the moment. As I said I get groggy at
this time of night. Thank you for entertaining me with this, I
hope your understanding of those words helps enlighten you further.


Incidently, this gives us a complete translation of yshklanti.mp3.

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"To understand the end, man must know the beginning. There was one civilization of men of Earth, there was Atlantis, there was God, and then came others."


Also, "Yshk Lanti, yshk La, yshk Gai"

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
"For Atlantis, for God, for Earth"


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Aeon
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Bryan seems very interested in about "him" and "his daughter". Do we tell him about Hank and Kendra?

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Now the next part I am very curious about. Who is this "he" and
the daughter? Do you know?


Translations to follow:

Spoiler (Rollover to View):

Atlantis was a "shantilan lafvyl hj" the "tilnlyl ksi acktrol etshudan."
"Atlantis was a beautiful place but the people did a horrible thing."

"Ruk" man you "esutl" seek "thyr jalun" you to the "ishka" of the "eutshoo."
"This man you shall seek will lead you to the ... of the ..." (Not official but, "...quite close," according to Bryan.)

"Ny gharsharn kol tolkna monlj j kon fejatala."
"The daughter he found brought on his obsession"

"Mshn klyk shorm" him for the dead of his "ponkhn."
Do not "shorm" him for the death of his "ponkhn" (I'm thinking, "Do not blame him for the death of his wife")



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I remain really suspicious of Bryan. I don't think we should tell him about Hank and Kendra...but then again there's no reason he wouldn't know already, with Hank's blog being right out there in the public eye and all.
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Aeon
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More from Bryan. I feigned ignorance and asked why he seemed to interested in "he" and "daughter" given all the other amazing things the texts seemed to say. Asked it if meant anything to him. This was the response.

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I only find it strange that a message composed in Atlantean
specifically mentions a daughter being found by a guy who gains an
obsession. The rest of the texts seem to be an attempt to retell
the story of Atlantis, while this has no reference to Atlantis. I
apologize if I seem to focus on this more than the rest of the
text. I too am trying to understand what you all have found and to
put it into a context.

Neshtal, Lanti tei p shantilan neshtal.
Defsh uik tei ny crashilu

iykesh srk,
Bryan Aristos


EDIT: CORRECTION FROM BRYAN

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
I was laying down in bed and I realized that I had mistyped my
message to you a little while ago. Told you I get groggy this late
at night.

Neshtal, Lanti tei p shantilan neshtal.
Defsh uik tei ny crashilu

iykesh srk,
Bryan Aristos

Neshtal, indeed

the second neshtal should read: etshundan

Indeed, Atlantis is a beautiful thing
more so is the knowledge


The Lanti, I believe, means
Indeed, Lanti is a beautiful thing"
More so, is the knowledge"

"Thank you" (I'd asked him how to say "Thank you" in Lanti in my previous message).

PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 3:13 am
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GoodChild
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Good Job Aeon! it's good to see such headway being made on the language!!
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Aeon
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hyexistenz wrote:
Good Job Aeon! it's good to see such headway being made on the language!!


Hmm . . . thanks. Now if only I could figure what to make of his interest in "him and his daughter" and whether or not we can trust him.

EDIT: Been noticing . . . Bryan seems associated with revenge and vengance. The image that lead us to him and his blub on the Plato Clock . . . "It was, however, the ultimate story of revenge which attracted me to mine." Hmm . . .

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James Stone
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more hints from Bryan

I emailed Bryan to see if he would reveal any more words to us at this time. This was his response:

Quote:
Four of the words are wrong, two are close so I'll let you play
with them so that you can gain a better understanding once you
learn them.

esutl = first
eutshoo = king

On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 10:09:03 -0600 James Stone
<profundusmentis> wrote:
>Hi Bryan
>
> I have the following sentence which I believe is Atlantean.
>
> Ruk peynin srk esutl smilan thyr jalun srk ra ny ishka di ny
>eutshoo
>
> I translate it to mean
>
> This man you desperately seek will take you to the heart of the
>truth
>
> Can you tell me if I am even close?
>
> Thanks
>
> James Stone



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jwiv
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[SPEC] A possible way of introducting Kendra and Bryan
Blind Introduction of kendra and Bryan

I'm leery of giving Kendra up to Bryan without a bit of caution. If someone can broach this to Bryan in a non-obvious way, what I was considering doing was to ask him if the following URL looked familiar to him.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b277/jwiv/491138.jpg

Doing it on the photobucket account protects Kendra's DJ from Bryan and gives him NO way of knowing how to find her.
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Sylvia
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what should i do?

I ask Bryan if he could identiy this image by attatching it to an emial.



But now i'm not sure what to do after the message we got here
http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=282339#282339


Spoiler (Rollover to View):
do not let them see the images


Quote:
From: bryanaristosSPLAThushmail.com
To: Sylvia
Date: Nov 2, 2006 1:24 AM
Subject: Re: What Is This?

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

I apologize sylvia for I do not download attachments in e-mails.
It is something I have convinced myself out of due to past
experiences. If you would like for me to view a link of it I will
see what I can do to help.
- Hide quoted text -

On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 16:01:31 -0600 Sylvia Fee
<sylvia4822> wrote:
>Hello Bryan
>
>You being an antiquarian, I thought you might be able to tell me
>what this
>is.
>I attached a picture of the item in question. I know it is some
>sort of tag,
>but what
>is the thing pictured on the tag?
>
>Thanks
>Sylvia
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Note: This signature can be verified at https://www.hushtools.com/verify
Version: Hush 2.5

wpwEAQECAAYFAkVJjyoACgkQLjVPvvFPWTspsQP/dxd1PNSoR3LxsjBs3v2wZjgyTp3b
HPMlqJcbWq5BK44Maz+BG9B34QGuObUGeTM/UcQmUfSVGeuNX508acFuWwVixpwDrmyw
G98fQs+GD5WQkECcM1kFBUUSPH7KFdwyf+bFKO1KuL05iKiFlrkaVIGkLH9qVy8CIG3L
Pb2hEeg=
=hQ2S
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----


So should i send him the link to the one on my flickr or just ignore the email?

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Aeon
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Interesting. Hmm . . . I'm thinking YshkLanti was referring to the images that were destegged from the yshkla gifs, but can't really be sure. In any case, it looks like we may need to introduce Kendra to Bryan as our next course of action, according to IREAD.txt.

bryan
blood
suspect(s?)
kendra must
meet bryan

appear in IREAD in plain text, just hidden among the ASCII art.

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James Stone
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Only a small update but it confirms two more words:

Quote:

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

Very good James, Very good

On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 06:33:44 -0600 James Stone
<profundusmentis> wrote:
>Hi Bryan
>
> Thank you very much for your response to my previous email, your

>help is greatly appreciated. From what you said in your reply I
>have come up with another translation and was wondering if you
>would mind taking a look?
>
> Ruk peynin srk esutl smilan thyr jalun srk ra ny ishka di ny
>eutshoo
>
> This man you first seek will lead you to the blood of the King
>
> Best Regards
>
> James Stone
>

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Jetamo
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Bryan! wrote:
Yes I'm slightly familiar with that exact sentence as a matter of
fact. I do believe that I was helping a guy named Travis with this
one. I am mildly suprised that Hank has so many people interested
in his work. If I didn't have the insight into what I do, I would
have thought he was one of those guys you laugh at on the science
fiction channel.

Travis' email is travis.hoganSPLATusd.edu

I hope he can help you better understand. I would help but in an
effort to, also, help him I would like the two of you to work
through this with eachother.

On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 08:30:10 -0600 Jet2themaxSPLATaol.com wrote:
>Yello.
>I understand that you are one to speak about the language of
>Lanti?
>
>I am focusing on decoding a couple of sentences i found - Perhaps
>you could
>help?
>
>
>"The atunama is hyk, for you must tollen and trikara him of his
>kanjal
>katutel. The daughter him found brought on his obsession. Do not
>shorm him for the
>dead of his ponhkhn."
>
>from
>
>Ny atunama tei hyk, yshk srk hasya tollen en trikara kol di kon
>kanjal
>katutel. Ny gharsharn kol tolkna monlj j kon fejatala. Mshn klyk
>shorm kol yshk ny
>kayk di kon ponkhn
>
>I hope you do not mind helping someone caught up in a hell load of

>crashilu.
>
>Jetamo


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Sylvia
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Ok, so i sent Bryan the link (see above) and this is what he said.

He wants to know where I found the image but I'm not going to tell him just yet or at least until i get things caught up and have time to weigh the do not let them see the images from the puzzle we just solved. For example, which images and which them?

Quote:
From: bryanaristosSPLAThushmail.com
To: Sylvia
Date: Nov 2, 2006 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: What Is This?

Thank you for taking the time to upload that for me and I apologize
about my hesitation to download messages from the emails.

It is hard to determine what exactly that image is without seeing
the actual objects. It appears to be a stamp of one of three
things though: a diving bell, a lamp, or a skirt form.

I'm not too familiar with diving bells, but I have seen a couple of
them. The theory of a lamp might be shot down if you realize that
you can see the stand through the shade and there is no lightbulb.
Though I tried to find an image of a skirt form this morning to
help show you why I think it is a skirt form, I failed miserably in
my attempt. I believe that it is definitely either a skirt form or
a diving bell though. Where did you find the image?


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I think Bryan's right in that it's a diving bell. Although I haven't seen any made of glass (or anything else transparent, like the one on the stamp,) there are quite a few examples (like this one) of bells with a similar appearance in cutaway.

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Sylvia
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Just got this from Bryan, so he's back

Quote:
From: bryanaristosSPLAThushmail.com
To: iamsylviaSPLAThushmail.com
Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2006 17:01:50 -0500

I'm glad you like it as well, I feel more comfortable when I have to send private e-mails to people through this interface.

On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 14:52:26 -0600 iamsylviaSPLAThushmail.com wrote:
>hey Bryan
>
>How are you doing.
>
>It's me Sylvia. I sent you the pic to see if you could tell me
what it was and you said you were pretty sure it was either a diving bell or a skirt form. Personally i think it's a skirt form but
then i guess it could be a diving bell.
>
>I liked your hushmail so much that I decided to get an account for myself.
>
>Well anyway, you asked where I found that pic at. I forgot but I am
>searching for it and as soon as I find it I will send you the
link.
>
>Well, I got to run. I should have that link by the time you reply to this but I'm really bad at remembering so when you want it just remind me. OK.
>
>Later
>Sylvia


Now start aggravating him about that language.

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