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molecularr
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[INTERACTION] Email from Bryan
So I guess he's not dead

Just got this from Bryan. I had asked about Lanti and recommended some better Flea Markets in my area for next time he visits. Nothing really revealed here except that he doesn't seem injured or whatever.

Quote:
Thank you for contacting me Zach, and I apologize for not having
gotten back in touch with you sooner as I was away from home trying
to gather a few items. To answer your question about the recording
that Henry had sent me, I have been studying various theoretical
languages for quite some time. The atlantean language that I
referred to is one of the many that I enjoy, though other linguists
refer to it by various other monikers. I just love languages that
people aren't vastly familiar with.

Oh and yes the collector's cabinet was one of the stores I had
stopped at on my trip through Gainesville. Thank you for your many
recommendations as well. I will look forward to stopping through
the stores sometime in the future.


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Sylvia
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Finally

Quote:
bryanaristosSPLAThushmail.com
to me
More options 10:47 pm (7 minutes ago)
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Hash: SHA1

Yes I do own that trunk, but I must admit that picture was from the
owners of the trunk before I purchased it. Thank you for your
interest in Henry's work. I am waiting to hear from him and
associate again regarding getting the opportunity to work through
more of the recordings. I hope that I can further assist all of
you in understanding the meanings of the recordings and possibly
even their exact origin.
- Show quoted text -

On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 16:20:57 -0500 Sylvia Fee
<sylvia4822> wrote:
>Bryan
>Love the Plato Clock. Looking forward to learning more about it.
>Wow, what a
>clever idea.
>
>Do you own that trunk pictured on your website. I really like
>that, can you
>tell me about it.
>
>Oh, I'm sure my friends have already told you about that strang
>language
>Hank has been recording
>out in the Triangle so I want repeat it again. But would like to
>say your
>help will be greatly appreciated.
>
>Love the Website
>Sylvia
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molecularr
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A bit more about the language this time:

Quote:
I apologize for the double response as I had not intended on
reading this rather lengthy e-mail tonight and responding.
However, I did read it so I decided to go ahead and respond while
it was fresh in my mind. This particular language that you've
approached me with is a rather frustrating language. At the time
it was used, theoretically, man was more advanced than they are
even today. The language seems to contradict that as the words are
more difficult to speak, but as the civilization was more advanced,
so was their level to comprehend it. While many languages have
been influenced by the Atlantean language, mankind got lazy and
shortened the words into languages more easily spoken. I cannot
recommend any particular resource for the language other than
listening to it repeatedly and finding the meaning of the words for
yourself. My experience comes with generations worth of knowledge
that has happened to compile itself on my desk and the shelves of
my library.

> >Hi Bryan,
> >
> >Thanks for the reply, and no worries about taking your time. I
> >hope you
> >found some good stuff on your travels. Will you be uploading some

> >more
> >images of your collection some time soon? I too am interested in
> >languages as they pertain to information and so on. I'm working
> >on a
> >degree in English, so I'm always interested in how language
> >relates to
> >narratives, cultures, worlds etc. As you probably know, there's
> >an
> >argument for the existence of Atlantis based on the idea that it
> >was a
> >sort of proto-language that influenced later languages, as
> >evidenced in
> >cognates between Mayan and French, for example. When I was a kid,

> >I
> >read a book about it that sort of disproved that theory, but it's
> >a
> >fascinating possibility.
> >
> >Anyway, what would you recommend for someone who's interested in
> >learning more about this language? I'd really like to try my hand

> >at
> >Henry's recordings and see if it leads anywhere.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Zach


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And my email from Bryan...

I didn't let on that i knew anything about Hank...but i guess, from the emails above, that would have been fine too!


Quote:
From : <bryanaristos>
Sent : Saturday, October 28, 2006 9:52 PM
To : <me>
Subject : Re: Antiques

| | | Inbox
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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Yes, I have actually been to cape town, but it was quite some time
ago. I'm not quite certain that you understand that Atlantean is a
theoretical language and has not yet been proven to exist. I
suppose that my ability to recognize and work through the language
has come through several generations worth of work on it that has
landed on my desk. Atlantis is only believed to exist, and its
existence has not yet been proven by any of today's scientists.
Though I have numerous artifacts and antiques from around the
world, I can't quite say that I have anything which a scientist
would claim has roots in Atlantis.

On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 07:48:53 -0500
<me> wrote:
>Hello Bryan
>
>Have you ever considered Cape Town, South Africa? I'm not sure
>what your
>exact tastes are, but there a number of antique stores in Cape
>Town. In the
>craft markets you can find masks and curious from all over Africa.
>
>I noticed you said that you know Atlantean. How does one learn
>such a
>language? I didn't even know it existed! do you have any
>artifacts from
>Atlantis?
>
>Thanks much,
>Hyexistenz

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Went to sleep before I had a chance to post my email from Bryan:

Quote:

From: bryanaristosSPLAThushmail.com <bryanaristos> Mailed-By: hushmail.com
To: Me <ancalime>
Date: Oct 28, 2006 7:31 PM
Subject: Re: Places to Visit
Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Add sender to Contacts list | Delete this message | Report phishing | Show original | Message text garbled?
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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Why hello Pheobe, I nearly missed your email. I saw it as I was
cleaning out my inbox.

Thank you kindly for your $0.02, it is much appreciated. I have
been through Tokyo, but never had the opportunity to visit the
market. Neither have I been able to visit the replica of
stonehenge. Is it not a marvel what so-called primitive man was
able to construct without modern day tools. I believe that if the
people of that day had shown courage to advance on their own into
the next days, we could quite possibly see that technology today.
I apologize for my off the wall rant. I do so love combining
science fiction with history.

St. Lucia's coast would be a beautiful visit this time of year. As
beautiful as I would imagine the tip of an island which did not
fully sink.

On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 20:01:42 -0500 Me
<ancalime> wrote:
>Bryan,
>
>Hello there! I just ran across your site and I thought I'd chip in

>my $0.02
>on interesting places to go, one linguist to another.
>
>Maybe it's not exactly right up your alley, but there's a replica
>of
>Stonehenge a couple hours from my town, at the Maryhill Museum in
>Oregon.
>Having been to both that one and the original I have to admit the
>fake one
>may be the more impressive.
>
>For picking up unique stuff, the one place that immediately
>springs to mind
>is Yoyogi Park in Tokyo. Quite often there you can find big flea
>markets or
>full-fledged events with booths and food and all, and every
>weekend there's
>independent bands and performers who've set up to sell demo CDs
>and attract
>fans.
>
>One of the places I've found myself wanting to go lately is St.
>Lucia --
>have you ever been? I imagine the weather must be...well...just
>about
>perfect.
>
>And now I'm daydreaming about warm sunny beaches. Ha!
>
>-Phoebe Seiders


Anyone else intrigued by the fact that he uses a secure email service, unlike all the rest of our in-game characters so far?
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[quote="ancalime"]
Quote:
St. Lucia's coast would be a beautiful visit this time of year. As
beautiful as I would imagine the tip of an island which did not
fully sink.


As in Atlantis, I suppose?

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Sylvia
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ancalime wrote:
Anyone else intrigued by the fact that he uses a secure email service, unlike all the rest of our in-game characters so far?


I am that's why I included it in my post.

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Well, by looking at the email, there is a digital signing feature. The "hash" for the signing appears to be SHA1 (located at the top of the email). Sooo ... do you think SHA1 is in reference to "Yshk Sha" or Sha in general?

I looked at the hushmail site, and it looks to be free to sign up. They also have a tools page which lets you encrypt and decrypt text, as well as verify signatures and some other fun stuff. Maybe we need to monkey around with that before we get any more progress (although I could be wrong).

*signs up for hushmail account*

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Daikah wrote:
Well, by looking at the email, there is a digital signing feature. The "hash" for the signing appears to be SHA1 (located at the top of the email). Sooo ... do you think SHA1 is in reference to "Yshk Sha" or Sha in general?


While it's possible, it's probably just coincidence. Besides MD5, SHA1 is one of the standard hashing algorithms.

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hushmail express

Just got a "Hushmail Express" message from Bryan, it sends me to a page on the Hushmail site and asks that I correctly answer a question supplied by the sender.

Here's the question:
Quote:
Yshk Lanti Yshk La Yshk ?


Apparently, you only get 5 tries to answer it, and I've already used four unsuccessfully:

For Atlantis
For Atlantis For Us For
for atlantis for Atlas for
yshklanti

I don't know if it's case-sensitive or not, but it might be. I assume he wants me to translate it, but in that case I would have to positively know the translation for "La", which I don't.

So hopefully some others got this message, but if not, what should I use for my last try at it?

I'm going to see if I can get more tries by accessing it through different IPs or clearing cookies. I'm guessing Hushmail's smarter than that, but it's worth a try.

EDIT: Crap. I tried again on a different IP address and it used up my last try. Hopefully someone else got a similar message or Bryan will give me another chance.

EDIT AGAIN: I just realized the answer and slapped myself in the forehead:
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Gai


Duh.

I wrote to Bryan asking for another chance, so hopefully he'll be generous.

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Sorry for the double post, but I had already edited that last one thrice. And this is new anyway.

Bryan gave me a second chance. My answer was correct, and this was the message:

Quote:
You are wanting assistance with this recording and you would, also,
like to learn how to translate this yourself? I've been receiving
numerous e-mails as of late and I can connect you with these other
individuals who have become so interested in these recordings. If
you are all wanting to learn how to translate I can assist. I will
say that some of the words you mentioned below look as though they
fit. Listen to the recording some more, work on connecting words
that you know with the recording. Perhaps developing a phonetic
tool for this would assist your learning of the language. I will
say that this does sound much like the last recording, almost like
a civil service announcement of some sort.

>Hi Bryan,
>
>Sorry to bother you again, but I'm actually working on a recording

>that
>you may be able to help me with. You can hear the recording hear:
>http://media.putfile.com/2nd-recording
>
>I've been working on transcribing it with some other people, and
>here's
>what we have so far:
>
>si geeht si chantsa ruk etekile p kale
>e sunj ruk e tkile p kale
>sha ny mdia srk jahe ny nebezigh isk nakovea dei.
>elekian i kracilur di shundaj kitoel taj ikwk!
>ny lan feh, feh ti ja he ki akan.
>ghyra aladi rabin du a shundaj teyailn
>yshk Lanti, yshk La, yshk Gai.
>
>Does that look right at all? I can recognize several of the
>words, but
>most of them are unfamiliar to me (if I'm even spelling them
>right).
>Any help you can provide would be most appreciated.
>
>Thanks,
>Zach


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Apparently Bryan also has artifacts from Atlantis. locked away somewhere. i wonder if they will come in handy later on? maybe some of us will actually get some of these artificats?

Quote:
From : <bryanaristos>
Sent : Sunday, October 29, 2006 7:04 PM
To : <me>
Subject : Re: Antiques


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Oh yes my curiousity about the exact origin of these recordings has
piqued. It is astounding that sounds like this could stand the
test of time as well as artifacts could. Yes I know that some of
the items I have in my collection are Atlantean, beyond any shadow
of a doubt. I keep these items locked away safe though. I haven't
even seen them in a few years because of that.

On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 02:50:20 -0600 <me>
wrote: I suppose you've gathered from the number of emails you've received lately that there are a number of us interested in Hank Morgan's mysterious recordings. You wrote in your last email to me, " I have numerous artifacts and antiques from around the world, I can't quite say that I have anything which a scientist would claim has roots in Atlantis." Well....forgetting science for a moment, do you have any artificats that enthusiasts believe are from Atlantis? That your gut, against all scientific evidence, believes are from Atlantis? It's very interesting what you say about Atlantis. I'm not at all versed in linguistics, so i'm curious as to how theoretical languages come into being in the first place. How did you first get access to all of the previous work on Atlantean? Surely you think something is fishy about the recordings that Hank sent you.

After studying a theoretical language (assumingly through written works) to then have a recording land on your desk that you are actually able to translate must be very exciting for you. That must get you thinking that Atlantean is a step further away from being theoretical and stepcloser to being an actual language.

Hyexistenz

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Another one:

Quote:

(I was asking about the origin of the 59-minute story)

> Thank you for the information, that looks like a
> niece piece to add to the collection. I can only
> confirm the information through past acquintances though.


And another one:

Quote:

From - bryanaristosSPLAThushmail.com Mon Oct 30 11:02:55 2006

I'm proud that you think Jesse did an excellent job on the design
and I concurr. Jesse is the neighbor's son. His mother has been
hospitalized for nearly a week and I do not believe her condition
has improved. I can relay the request to Jesse, but he primarily
gets home from school and spends all his time at the hospital with
his mother so it would be impossible to interact with him.

He did give me some instruction on how to get the images uploaded
and setup on the website. I received a link to a second recording
that appears to be atlantean, so I may be somewhat occupied
tonight. Tomorrow could be a better time to check to see if I have
uploaded those images.

Thank you for your time,
Bryan Aristos

>Hello Bryan,
>
>thanks for the reply. It's a pity there are no written sources for
>the
>story. Oh well, if collecting historical facts was easy, it
>wouldn't be
>such an exciting hobby Smile
>
>On your website, you state that you were going to put online some
>pictures of your collections. As I'm a huge antiques fan by
>myself, I'd
>be very interested in getting inspirations of what to add to my
>collection. Apparently you cannot upload them, so maybe you would
>mind
>sending them as an attachment?
>
>BTW, that website is just great. As I understand, some friend of
>you
>(Jesse?) built it. A friend of mine needs a website done for his
>company, and has been looking for a talented web designer. Maybe
>you
>have an e-mail address or company website address of Jesse that I
>could
>pass on to him?


So he's busy with the second recording Razz

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hushmail

i just got a "hushmail" from Bryan. The question was "Timaeus and" and the answer was

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Critas


He's offered to help translate some Lanti.

[EDIT]

I asked him about "kol" and "peynin". here's his reply:

Quote:
I thought about this a little further, perhaps knowing the word kon
could help you to figure out other words. If you send me some
context of this, I can help you to understand rather than for you
to just see what the words are. It is such a beautiful thing to
understand for yourself.

Kon is His

Such as his daughter: Kon gharsharn

Kon is similar to Kol which is Him,
such as unleash him: Adjnack kol

Yshk srk hasya smilan ny crashilu
For you must seek the knowledge

I believe I may begin encrypting my emails with that in the future,
if you receive anymore encrypted emails from me, they will probably
be:

Yshk skr hasya smilan ny ? - question
crashilu - answer


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Huh. I did have kon tagged as likely meaning "his." Nice to have that confirmed.
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