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[META][REFERENCE] Lexicon
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[META][REFERENCE] Lexicon
The words we've seen so far

So far we've seen several words that appear to be in some language. They may well be codes, but at the moment they look like an obscure or invented language. Here's a list of what we've seen so far, and where possible, best guesses at their meaning or part of speech (i.e. based on context, juxtaposition with english words, and syntax):

WORDS
acktrol =
actino =
adjnak = ?
aladi =
arpka =
atunama =
awlyn = ?
craah =
di = ?
en = ?
esun = ?
esutl =
esetula = regret
etshundan =
eutshoo =
fejatala =
fhar =
flalo =
Gai (n) = ?
ghyra =
gharsharn =
gora = fury
guakala =
hasya = ?
hj =
hyk =
hykyar =
ishka =
iraja =
j =
jal = ?
jalun =
kanjal =
katutel =
kayk = dead*
keilyn = ?
klyk =
kol = human*
koldaaj (n) = humanity
kon =
ksi =
La (n) = ?
lafvyl =
laku =
Lanti (n) = Atlantis
linguala =
masi = ?
monlj =
moquin (n) = ?
mrkzai = ?
Mshn =
nednai (v) = ?
nnra (v) = preserve
nukvad = ?
ny = the
olj =
p =
peynin = ?
ponkhn =
ra = to
ruk =
sha =
shantilan =
shorm =
skorjin =
smilan =
spiala =
srk =
shundaj =
tei =
takma (n) = end*
talm =
teyailn = there
thyr =
tollen =
tolkna =
trakan =
trikara =
tyld = ?
ust = ?
un =
verkandon =
vyl = ?
yshk = for
zinhaj =

PASSAGES

From /itiscoming.html (no longer there) --
"Ra nnra koldaaj, jal hasya adjnak ny nukvad."
tentative translation (supplied in source code):
"To preserve humanity, jal hasya adjnak the nukvad."

From yshklanti.mp3 and 2nd version of 746865656e64.com --
"Ra nednai ny takma, peynin hasya keilyn ny moquin. Teyailn vyl esun mrkzai di peynin di Gai, teyailn vyl Lanti, teyailn vyl La, en masi ust awlyn."
tentative translation:
"To nednai the end, peynin hasya keilyn the moquin. There vyl esun mrkzai di peynin di Gai, there vyl Atlantis, there vyl La, en masi ust awlyn."

Text from 746865656e64.com after Oct 13 --
"Lanti vyl p shantilan lafvyl hj ny tilnlyl ksi acktrol etshundan. Ruk peynin srk esutl smilan thyr jalun srk ra ny ishka di ny eutshoo. ... Ny atunama tei hyk, yshk srk hasya tollen en trikara kol di kon kanjal katutel. Ny gharsharn kol tolkna monlj j kon fejatala. Mshn klyk shorm kol yshk ny kayk di kon ponkhn."
tentative translation:
" Atlantis vyl p shantilan lafvyl hj the tilnlyl ksi acktrol etshundan. Ruk peynin srk esutl smilan thyr jalun srk to the ishka di the eutshoo. ... The atunama tei hyk, for srk hasya tollen en trikara kol di kon kanjal katutel. The gharsharn kol tolkna monlj j kon fejatala. Mshn klyk shorm kol for the dead di kon ponkhn."

Transcript of Hank's First Recording (confirmed via email) --
"spiala verkandon un esetula ra actino srk laku teyailn aladi iraja p arpka flalo talm craah olj fhar ra guakala ny linguala di shundaj mrkzai, ghyra aladi monlj hykyar en gora zinhaj sha skorjin ny trakan."
tentative translation:
"spiala verkandon un regret to actino srk laku there aladi iraja p arpka flalo talm craah olj fhar to guakala the linguala di shundaj mrkzai, ghyra aladi monlj hykyar en fury zinhaj sha skorjin the trakan."


When (if) more are revealed, I'll update this post as a reference.

* Those marked with an asterik are definitions we're less sure of.

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takma = end
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I saw Kayk takma on one of the tabs right before the access denied thingie. I'm thinking:

Kayk = dead?

So 'kayk takma' is 'dead end'. But kinda still spec, but I thought it was worth posting.
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If we consider koldaaj = humanity then perhaps kol = a human?
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also Kayk (As in Kayk Takma) Probably Means Dead,

So Kayk Takma = Dead End

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I've lost the notes I made but I took some time to look at translating the words yesterday. I'm not sure how much sense the language is supposed to make as parts of it seems to be Hindi, others Slovenian and there's some Chinese thrown in too. Confused

I've a feeling this may just be coincidence because if you type in enough random letters they're bound to form words in someone's language.

Also, I think it's been mentioned before but the Latin username on the new page was followed by an anagram of the word LATIN. To my mind this fits with the random nature of this 'language' although I'm willing to accept it was an accident.

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Hi, I'm new here, but I will be arond for a while! I got tied into ARGs for the first time with CiW (so sad the way that thurned out) but I think I am hooked.

I fond this and will be following this one all the way through...

One thing I was wonder, can someone shere with me how takma = end was determined?

Thanks so much, I plan on helping as much as I can (I have alot of time on my hands) so I think understanding this would help me alot.

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BurnsIV wrote:
One thing I was wonder, can someone shere with me how takma = end was determined?


That was inferred from the title of the main webpage previously was "Ny Takma", which we guessed meant "The End" since we think Ny = The.

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The title now is 74686565E64 - The End - Ny Takma

So we have theend in hex, the end in english and the-something in this language. So it's obviously end.


And I really do not think this is any code variation for Latin. In latin there was no word equivalent for 'The'
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The more I look into this language thing, the more I'm convinced that this is meant to be a language of Atlantis. The Bermuda Triangle and other references suggest an Atlantean narrative, and one of the lines of arguments for Atlantis's historical existence is the appearance of seemingly related words in widely separated cultures.

Here's an example of this argument.

For some reason, I happened to find on my shelf a fairly scholarly and objective overview of Atlantis mythology, Lost Continents: The Atlantis Theme in History Science and Literature. It pretty well debunks the linguistic argument, but explains that the idea behind the argument is that Atlanteans had a pure or perfect language that they then disseminated to the cultures they had contact with. Those cultures absorbed words and made them their own.

So within the narrative that's developing here, it seems that we can recognize words in our growing lexicon (hasya, takma, etc.) because those words have all been absorbed into more modern languages (sanskrit and turkmen, I think, for hasya and takma, respectively).

So if this is true, then finding a word in "Atlantean" that corresponds to a modern word doesn't necessarily mean that the two words are cognates, but it may be a starting point. In other words, if "hasya" in sanskrit means something like "laughter", then it may also mean that in Atlantean, or it might be something sort of related, like a superlative adjective or something positive.

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I think

Lanti (n) = Atlantian.. is the name of the people leaving in Atlantis

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Re: I think

flash_of_lightning wrote:
Lanti (n) = Atlantian.. is the name of the people leaving in Atlantis


Sounds good as a guess; got any supporting evidence?
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Re: I think

ancalime wrote:
Sounds good as a guess; got any supporting evidence?


no sorry.. i just guesed .. but if it is atlantian.. i think it could realy be that ..

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I think again

yshk = Hybris writen in greek (Υβρις) wich has a similiarity for me and what means "egotism and overconfidence will lead to an bad way"

scary ai?

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per Hyexistenz's email, yshk = for and Lanti = Atlantis. So the Ny Takma site's headers are "For Atlantis," "For _____," etc.
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