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SilentlyBroken
Boot
Joined: 02 Mar 2006 Posts: 37
[flame set] #101 - Petals Around the Rose Signed by Kurt, with a playing card symbol of 5 spades, and lettery bits.
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There aren't many things that are guaranteed to strike fear into the heart of Bill Gates, but Petals Around The Roses is one of them. Unlike normal puzzles, it's said that the smarter you are, the longer it takes you to work out the rules behind this fiendish games, because you start coming up with outlandishly complex formulas to explain it. It's said that Bill took rather a long time on this one, and almost fooled people into thinking he'd solved it when he hadn't, by memorising dozens of dice rolls. Of course he did get it in the end - eventually.
Here's how it works: You roll five dice, and from them, you have to work out the number of 'petals around the rose'. There is only a single correct answer for each roll. We've included a number of rolls and answers below.
{image 1} answer is fourteen
{image 2} answer is zero
{image 3} answer is four
{image 4} answer is four
{image 5} answer is six
Can you figure out the rules behind Petals Around The Rose? What's the answer for this roll?
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 12:17 pm
zaeil
Decorated
Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 233 Location: NC, US
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Unlike normal puzzles, it's said that the smarter you are, the longer it takes you to work out the rules behind this fiendish game, because you start coming up with outlandishly complex formulas to explain it.
I must be rather stupid, then!
The rule:
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There are petals only if there is a dot in the center...3's and 5's. All other numbers have no petals.
The answer:
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6
Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 12:30 pm
Adam G.
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Joined: 16 May 2005 Posts: 71 Location: England, Bristol
i must be a genius then, i cant see any pattern at all, and im not even going to bother making it complicated, maybe i will see something after some sleep...
edit- never mind, im not as smart as i hoped, but i got my answer for when i get this card so its not all bad
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 2:56 pm
SilentlyBroken
Boot
Joined: 02 Mar 2006 Posts: 37
I didn't want to post the solve when I posted this card, just incase people didn't appreciate it. One of my favourites, I saw the answer immediately, which made me rather happy
Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 4:36 pm
GasparLewis
Unfettered
Joined: 18 Nov 2005 Posts: 474 Location: vicinty of NYC
Took me... three minutes?
I looked at it, tried to find the obvious, then I
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used the title of the game
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It all fell into place five seconds after that.
I beat Bill Gates; fun!
Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 4:56 pm
gopipgo
Boot
Joined: 04 Apr 2006 Posts: 14
wonder how long it took him?! must say i had that in under 10 minutes
Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 2:40 pm
CherokeeParkes
Veteran
Joined: 03 Nov 2005 Posts: 92 Location: Belfast, Northern Ireland
it took me about 3 mins or so, thinking on it properly.
saw it before and didn't ready it properly that time.
but the title is a very strong clue once you work out the rules.
Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 12:25 pm
rhaining
Kilroy
Joined: 22 Apr 2006 Posts: 2
Slow (smart?) Took me forever (3 sessions of about an hour each, brainstorming). Kept seeing more elaborate patterns. I finally "got" it, and my formula produces correct results, but it's not what others came up with...
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Throw out the even dice. Subtract 1 from all remaining (formerly odd) dice. Sum. Turns out this produces the correct result every time, as all odd dice have a central pip and the -1 step discounts for the central pip.
I got hung up on...
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The word "rose". I thought it was a homonym for "rows". Then I thought it was the color "rose" and it had something to do with the pink or red die.
-Rorke.
Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 3:51 am
DrKra37
Decorated
Joined: 22 Mar 2006 Posts: 157 Location: Colorado, USA
I wish I could say how long it took me to solve this one, but I already knew the answer before I ever saw it. I had this game played for me in my IB Theory of Knowledge class in high school, so it sort of ruined me for the card, as I already knew the secret
Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 1:23 pm
Platinumflux
Boot
Joined: 02 Aug 2006 Posts: 43 Location: Ireland
rhaining, you are a GENIUS!
I cracked it in ten minutes using the standard method, but you came up with a whole new solution as far as I can tell.
Go to
http://www.borrett.id.au/computing/petals-j.htm
To find out how Bill Gates fared (You did better than him and it took him a couple of days!)
BTW there is a tradition to this puzzle
"Each Member is pledged to be a cruel and heartless wretch who will never divulge the secrets of membership even under threat of the Rack and has taken an oath to comfort the miserable, ill, unfortunate and anguished members of the STUPE CLUB. Impossible as it may seem, each member has vowed to convert all STUPES to the grand and glorious P.A.T.R."
Great Stuff!!
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Omnia mutanter, nihil interit - Ovide
Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 7:06 pm
glomer1163
Greenhorn
Joined: 18 Sep 2006 Posts: 3 Location: St. Louis, MO USA
Yippee!! Solved it I love games that torment people. I also am one to overthink things. I had an idea at first that I am glad I did not explore
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it was to add up the numbers along the sides
. However it was on another website that had another name for the game that helped me figure out the game. The alternate name was
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Ploar Bears Around the Ice Hole
Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 12:59 pm
hobyrne
Guest
Am I stretching it to wonder if this dice game is related to the dice on what is being called the Risk puzzle?
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 4:33 pm
kareyn01
Boot
Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Posts: 10 Location: Louisville, KY
DrKra37 wrote:
I wish I could say how long it took me to solve this one, but I already knew the answer before I ever saw it. I had this game played for me in my IB Theory of Knowledge class in high school, so it sort of ruined me for the card, as I already knew the secret
That's hilarious. I was going to come on here and post that I had already played the game in theory of knowledge. Good to see those blowhards really change up the curriculum from state to state.
Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 12:11 pm
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