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Bootsy
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On the Bill Godden Foundation page there is a link to the site design by 'Ragged Man promotions' which goes to a 404 on vibration 13. I did a search on ragged man and came up with this site:
http://www.bestsf.net/reviews/asimovs031011.html
It is an exerpt from a 2001 issue of Asimov's Science Fiction Magazine
Here is one of the stories in that issue
Jack Williamson. The Man from Somewhere.
Williamson has of course been writing SF for pretty much the entire period SF has been written, and to find something truly new to squeeze out of a time travel story must have been a challenge.
His opening scene, an amnesiac man in tattered clothes appearing on a doorstep, is a classical start. As the story unfolds we find out more about the ragged man, told mostly through the mechanism of him recounting his previous night's dreams over breakfast the following morning.
What he has experienced of the future is not promising for Earth, and what he has come back in time for has remarkable personal implications for the young couple with whom he stays. [/b]
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 10:41 am
MountainGirl
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Ragged Man is also at the bootom of the "Issue Zero" at Vibration13.
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 11:11 am
HyperBorea
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Joined: 12 Oct 2005 Posts: 63 Location: Undisclosed
I've been poking around the Bill Godden Foundation site some more. On the page. finding interesting stuff.
This page
http://www.billgoddenfoundation.org/Projects/KilrushGardenProject.html
links to this letter
http://www.billgoddenfoundation.org/Projects/letter_from_MrBenson.html
which can be followed to this site
http://www.westclarevtos.ie/index.html
which seems quite real. So does Frank Benson:
http://www.westclarevtos.ie/about/staff/fbenson_coordinator.php
Hm.
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Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 11:14 am
Withe Bartbi
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Okay, I'm back. I've composed myself. Logical Withe is back in the house. I was so touched last night I was moved to tears, there is hope for our human condition. What a wonderful world and all the people in it!
Now, to things I've noticed/pondered:
~Memories.jpg: Emphasis is made on the words "prove" and "lucky". If I'm not mistaken, these are also reinforcements/references to pages and things we have had in book zero. (Lucky 13...anyone?) Also, I was almost sure we had a /prove page once before, but it's not there now.
~Are "prenatal memories" a reference to Toby's birth year? Our dear Islington was present with PTT (Practical Time Travel) in 1981. He has referenced it several times. This year has some significance. I took it upon myself to look it up (considering it was my birth year as well). A historically significant event in 1981 that may be related:
*In Sri Lanka, Sinhalese police burn an irreplaceable library of Tamil history. Do a wikipedia search on the Tamil culture and you'll see.
P.S. for those who wish to know, my scribe blog is up and running. See the www link below or in my profile for the address.
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Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 11:20 am
Shyshdy
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Well, I haven't done much "poking" if you will, but as far as this foundation....remember auctioning the book? a third to charity, no? maybe ists theis bill godden foundation guy, that or maybe that oliver bird place. I dunno, but the handwriting on that one bill godden page is all to familiar to us, right? I think we have pondering to do.........(this is so freakin awesome)
EDIT: And yes, Toby is listed as a trustee on that godden page.
EDIT EDIT: would a welsh person be willing to call monker bar in swansea and ask for sphie Douin, or Anne-sophie Douin? in one of Yann's firsts comments at lazy laces, he said he took a pkg to a "sophie" at monkey bar in swansea, similar to the one receved by toby's boss. If this is the same sophie, I bet she has something to talk about
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Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 11:36 am
Dragonfly
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The Monkey Cafe (13 Castle Street, Swansea--address sound familiar?) has a DJ named Noah Redfern, aka DJ Noah. I think someone should make a visit http://www.monkeycafe.co.uk/stylus.html#
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 11:47 am
HyperBorea
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Shyshdy wrote:
Well, I haven't done much "poking" if you will, but as far as this foundation....remember auctioning the book? a third to charity, no?
Ah, nice catch.
Shyshdy wrote:
EDIT: And yes, Toby is listed as a trustee on that godden page.
But not on the trustees page:
http://www.billgoddenfoundation.org/Trustees/trustees.html
Okay, I seriously need to do some actual OOG work now.
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Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 12:03 pm
Besot
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Brainstorm:
Ragged Man: Reinold Godden
Horticulture (Organic) Self sustained life style: John Titor's post WW3 life style (communal)
OLIVER Williams is the editor of the John Titor web site.
From www.johntitor.com
Quote:
The year 2008 was a general date by which time everyone will realize the world they thought they were living in was over. The civil war in the United States will start in 2004. I would describe it as having a Waco type event every month that steadily gets worse. The conflict will consume everyone in the US by 2012 and end in 2015 with a very short WWIII.
This is right around 2013 I know it is a stretch.
Additional link of interest (much more organized):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Titor
Edited to add link and clean up a bit.
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Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 12:12 pm
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TheJackalope
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Last night, after posting all the pictures I emailed Izlington and Graeme, and then this morning Toby. I have only thus far recieved an email back from Graeme.
I think, and Withe and Rogi agree, that is most important that this information be passed along to Toby, as his foundation is almost directly mentioned. If I am supposed to forward this to him, I want to know if he knows why.
Also on "pre-natal" here is an ecerpt from the Forenote:
"From time to time in the pages which follow the term 'pre-natal' has been used in the sense of 'pertaining to former incarnations'. With that understood, no misconstruction should arise through the avoidance of the clumsier phrase."
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Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 12:47 pm
Raeden
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Quote:
"From time to time in the pages which follow the term 'pre-natal' has been used in the sense of 'pertaining to former incarnations'. With that understood, no misconstruction should arise through the avoidance of the clumsier phrase."
Interesting, reïncarnation is actually a religious form of time travel.
My only thought on the package is that the feather might be from a Silvergull. It could be from a few other gulls too (I dunno if I should list them, seems pretty irrelevant to me), but "triska" means silver in an eastern european language (czech if I am correct, don't know for sure), and I thought that there might be a connection.
[EDIT]Of course that wasn't really my only thought, but anything else I thought is already pointed out in this topic.
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 1:23 pm
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Withe Bartbi
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Ah Ha. Thank you for the clarification, Jack. It's much appreciated. But the historical significance comment still applies.
Islington keeps pointing us to 1981 for some reason, and the destruction of the library still piques my interest, because a lot of the history and writings of an ancient culture were lost. (We also have books that were lost, from a library no less.) Also to add, the Sinhalese and the Tamil in Sri Lanka were attempting to reach a peace agreement as recently as 2002, according to the wikipedia article.
Anybody else who pulls up some relevant looking 1981 stuff feel free to expound on it. Maybe I should create an important/recurring dates thread to discuss it in?
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Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 1:24 pm
Coelacanth
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kylegumby wrote:
Check this out. Doesn't that font look familiar? And that symbol flashed up, superimposed over the moon, in the old Triska splash page.
That symbol also looks very similar to the "body" of the little man on the fist page of book zero. Also the man in that drawing is holding a sort of plant in his hand which could have been some kind of foreshasowing about the Bill Godden project.
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Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 2:18 pm
Rogi Ocnorb
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Withe Bartbi wrote:
Islington keeps pointing us to 1981 for some reason
Where else did we have previous reference to 1981. I'm not finding it anywhere.
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Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 3:03 pm
shylilembrace
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Rogi Ocnorb wrote:
Withe Bartbi wrote:
Islington keeps pointing us to 1981 for some reason
Where else did we have previous reference to 1981. I'm not finding it anywhere.
Practical time travel and the burning of an irreplacable library.
also i'm not so sure that the godden foundation is connected after all toby has said he IS a web site designer..
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Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 3:24 pm
Rogi Ocnorb
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Was there another 1981 reference prior to Jackalopes' receiving the book?
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Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 3:57 pm
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