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[SPEC] The Operator as a good guy?
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conundrum768
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 		Re: The Operator as a good guy?
Aeliott wrote:
Entry 14. TO stalks into Alex's bedroom, and he wakes up with blood over his head. As you said, he appears before Alex more than anyone else - but in Entry 59 Tim described similar conditions; "waking up in the back of your car with blood on your head and not knowing how you got there" (rough quote). While there's no certain proof this was TO's doing, the amnesia is a strong case for it.

What about Jessica in 52? We don't see it, but she screams and disappears shortly before Jay sees TO.

What about Brian in 51? That was the last we saw of him, and if TO was there to stop Alex he did a very poor job of it, peeking in on Brian before his motionless body is dragged away by Alex.

There are probably more instances. It's an interesting theory, but ultimately I really don't think it's true. And I sincerely hope not Razz. Can you imagine re-watching every other entry, TTA and MH alike, and see TO and thinking to yourself "it's ok, he doesn't mean harm, he's on our side!" it would completely ruin what made this so popular in the first place - paranoia and mystery.

Regarding the most recent entry...TO does get pretty much a mere few inches from Jay, yet he manages to get away. He's right up in his face when he looks back and nothing bad happens that we know of. I noticed a lot of people say that TO "let Jay escape". Ehhhh. Really? The very first time we see him at around 8 minutes he is reaching towards Jay. But most importantly, the footage cuts out and skips to him climbing out of the tunnel. While it's still very bright outside, pretty much the same as when he entered, there's still a possibility that something happened between him being chased and climbing out. There's also that theory about the doll somehow protecting or teleporting him... But back to the point, just because he got that close and Jay was (seemingly) unscathed, doesn't mean he's not trying to harm him.

Aaanyway. To make the very cornerstone of Marble Hornets a "good" entity wouldn't make much sense, and would eliminate the horror of his prior appearances. Which ultimately makes it a lot less interesting to watch in my opinion


The thing is, he hasn't done any of these things; he's just been hanging around when all of these events occurred.

By the same logic CNN is evil because whenever there's a war, they have a camera there.

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pravado
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 		yeah well he's not stopping them, so he's still a bad guy for that

you don't get to be neutral in marble hornets

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 		The Operator as a good guy?
The really scary thing about the Operator is that he doesn't need to do anything to hurt you. His presence alone is enough to damage your body and mind. Regardless of what his intentions are--or even if he has any intentions--his very being is so inimical to our reality that the simple fact that he's there causes deterioration in people, places, and film.

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 		Re: The Operator as a good guy?
conundrum768 wrote:
Aeliott wrote:
Entry 14. TO stalks into Alex's bedroom, and he wakes up with blood over his head. As you said, he appears before Alex more than anyone else - but in Entry 59 Tim described similar conditions; "waking up in the back of your car with blood on your head and not knowing how you got there" (rough quote). While there's no certain proof this was TO's doing, the amnesia is a strong case for it.

What about Jessica in 52? We don't see it, but she screams and disappears shortly before Jay sees TO.

What about Brian in 51? That was the last we saw of him, and if TO was there to stop Alex he did a very poor job of it, peeking in on Brian before his motionless body is dragged away by Alex.

There are probably more instances. It's an interesting theory, but ultimately I really don't think it's true. And I sincerely hope not Razz. Can you imagine re-watching every other entry, TTA and MH alike, and see TO and thinking to yourself "it's ok, he doesn't mean harm, he's on our side!" it would completely ruin what made this so popular in the first place - paranoia and mystery.

Regarding the most recent entry...TO does get pretty much a mere few inches from Jay, yet he manages to get away. He's right up in his face when he looks back and nothing bad happens that we know of. I noticed a lot of people say that TO "let Jay escape". Ehhhh. Really? The very first time we see him at around 8 minutes he is reaching towards Jay. But most importantly, the footage cuts out and skips to him climbing out of the tunnel. While it's still very bright outside, pretty much the same as when he entered, there's still a possibility that something happened between him being chased and climbing out. There's also that theory about the doll somehow protecting or teleporting him... But back to the point, just because he got that close and Jay was (seemingly) unscathed, doesn't mean he's not trying to harm him.

Aaanyway. To make the very cornerstone of Marble Hornets a "good" entity wouldn't make much sense, and would eliminate the horror of his prior appearances. Which ultimately makes it a lot less interesting to watch in my opinion


The thing is, he hasn't done any of these things; he's just been hanging around when all of these events occurred.

By the same logic CNN is evil because whenever there's a war, they have a camera there.


That's exactly why CNN IS evil
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 		No, that's appropriate for news coverage. Media outlets have the obligation to be unbiased and present the facts without interfering.

It just happens that most media/news programs fail to not take sides. If you're trying argue the "create wars for the purpose of covering them" line, that's another issue entirely.

Back to the Operator... It can be plainly deduced that bad things happen because of his influence, regardless of intent or direct action. For this reason alone, it is impossible from him to be "good." At best, he is an antagonist with incomprehensible motive. Which, incidentally, was one of the driving motifs of the original Slender Man mythos the Operator is based on.

The "Blue and Orange Morality" trope also comes to mind.
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Lithp
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 		All I know is this:

If I made Marble Hornets, & I planned for The Operator to be a good guy, I would have rewrote my series by now, because everyone guesses that twist.

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pravado wrote:
yeah well he's not stopping them, so he's still a bad guy for that

you don't get to be neutral in marble hornets


There are so many morally ambiguous characters in this series, it's practically a motif.

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LegitimatelyTaylor wrote:
pravado wrote:
yeah well he's not stopping them, so he's still a bad guy for that

you don't get to be neutral in marble hornets


There are so many morally ambiguous characters in this series, it's practically a motif.

Yeah, but most of them either die or go missing.... or insane
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 		I have only one thing to say about this topic.

Splendorman.

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pravado wrote:
He's not a good guy. He takes people against their will and covers up murders for alex. He stalks people. He caused alex to harm his friends (alex was a nice human being apparently before he came into play)

This has been brought up a million times, but did this really need its own topic?


you're a really shit user

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 		Stop that.
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CaptainHayashi wrote:
I have only one thing to say about this topic.

Splendorman.

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TheMusicalVito wrote:
you're a really shit user

You should really shut the fuck up.
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pravado wrote:
He's not a good guy. He takes people against their will and covers up murders for alex. He stalks people. He caused alex to harm his friends (alex was a nice human being apparently before he came into play)

This has been brought up a million times, but did this really need its own topic?


I Agree, everyone should just shut the fuck up and stop posting on this board!

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Fuck you pravado


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monstertugg wrote:
pravado wrote:
He's not a good guy. He takes people against their will and covers up murders for alex. He stalks people. He caused alex to harm his friends (alex was a nice human being apparently before he came into play)

This has been brought up a million times, but did this really need its own topic?


I Agree, everyone should just shut the fuck up and stop posting on this board!

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Fuck you pravado


LOL @ making a seperate account just to say this. grow up.

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slendydreaming
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 		I honestly don't think OP is good, maybe we don't fully understand its motives because of lack of understanding/being able to communicate, but like others(like pravado) have pointed out, it doesn't stop Alex from killing Bruce or hitting Tim over the head, it has taken people or bodies away to do who knows what to them, and it wipes people's memories. All those considered, OP is a bad guy, IMO.

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