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Riveran
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Joined: 16 Jun 2011
Posts: 21
Location: Lansing, Michigan

Puzzly

A-HAH!
I was on the right track in regards to how the answer would form, but i realized I was hindering myself.

After going back over the puzzle, I realized I made a very simple mistake in one group that, in-turn, influenced the outcomes of the rest of the groups. This gave me gibberish for the answer. Which caused me to re-evaluate the groups and eventually formulate the answer.

For those who are still stumped....

 Spoiler (Rollover to View): Do you prefer Dos Equis?

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 8:15 am
Guest
Guest

Re: Puzzly

Riveran wrote:
A-HAH!
I was on the right track in regards to how the answer would form, but i realized I was hindering myself.

After going back over the puzzle, I realized I made a very simple mistake in one group that, in-turn, influenced the outcomes of the rest of the groups. This gave me gibberish for the answer. Which caused me to re-evaluate the groups and eventually formulate the answer.

For those who are still stumped....

 Spoiler (Rollover to View): Do you prefer Dos Equis?

[spoiler]No, and this stupid puzzle has now got me miffed.[/quote]

I've been looking at this thing for a week now, and I've got to be honest, it's still ticking me off. I've been reading the info in here, and I'm seriously still puzzled. Some of these are mutually exclusive, but most are not, at least to me. Can someone at least help me with that part? At least then I'll know I'm working with the right ones?

Thanks,
Ted

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:49 am
Riveran
Boot

Joined: 16 Jun 2011
Posts: 21
Location: Lansing, Michigan

Re: Puzzly

 ted wrote: I've been looking at this thing for a week now, and I've got to be honest, it's still ticking me off. I've been reading the info in here, and I'm seriously still puzzled. Some of these are mutually exclusive, but most are not, at least to me. Can someone at least help me with that part? At least then I'll know I'm working with the right ones? Thanks, Ted

 Spoiler (Rollover to View): One of the hints tells you the order with which to solve each of the groups. If you figure out the first pair, the next set is answerable based on what you know as true and false from the previous. There will never be a "maybe". The key is to keep looking back at the previouse "solved" groups and using previous concrete information to decide what is true in the future groups. If you know an item is false in one group, the other two are true by default and vise versa. Don't think of the facts as something that is possible for one man to acomplish. Think of it as a chain of logic.

As far as the answer goes

 Spoiler (Rollover to View): you and I aren't the only ones who's favorite beer isn't Dos Equis

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 12:25 pm
Noanymous
Guest

Re: One of the Ancient-est Crossword Puzzles Ever

Noanymous wrote:
Argh, i cannot wrap my head around the final answer for the sator square-alike theorem.
 Spoiler (Rollover to View): I got the magic phrase and i understand that it should be used like a crossword question

but i just don't know the answer. and nothing
 Spoiler (Rollover to View): palindromous

jumps to mind either. I feel like it might not even be a word/phrase that i know (being a foreign speaker)

Gahh.

i still don't get it. i looked for
 Spoiler (Rollover to View): synonyms for god too. 'deity' looked promising, but nothing like deitied, deititied, deitifitied worked

Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:39 am
mule
Greenhorn

Joined: 04 May 2011
Posts: 9

Re: One of the Ancient-est Crossword Puzzles Ever

You are so close. Try actual words, though, instead of deitied, etc.

Noanymous wrote:
Noanymous wrote:
Argh, i cannot wrap my head around the final answer for the sator square-alike theorem.
 Spoiler (Rollover to View): I got the magic phrase and i understand that it should be used like a crossword question

but i just don't know the answer. and nothing
 Spoiler (Rollover to View): palindromous

jumps to mind either. I feel like it might not even be a word/phrase that i know (being a foreign speaker)

Gahh.

i still don't get it. i looked for
 Spoiler (Rollover to View): synonyms for god too. 'deity' looked promising, but nothing like deitied, deititied, deitifitied worked

Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 4:07 am
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Boot

Joined: 31 Mar 2011
Posts: 36

Re: One of the Ancient-est Crossword Puzzles Ever

Noanymous wrote:
i still don't get it. i looked for
 Spoiler (Rollover to View): synonyms for god too. 'deity' looked promising, but nothing like deitied, deititied, deitifitied worked

 Spoiler (Rollover to View): Facts: 1. You are extremely close. 2. The answer is a palindrome. 3. One of your failed attempts is *one* letter off.

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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 4:16 am
Gorgo
Boot

Joined: 10 Jun 2011
Posts: 35

Re: One of the Ancient-est Crossword Puzzles Ever

Noanymous wrote:
Noanymous wrote:
Argh, i cannot wrap my head around the final answer for the sator square-alike theorem.
 Spoiler (Rollover to View): I got the magic phrase and i understand that it should be used like a crossword question

but i just don't know the answer. and nothing
 Spoiler (Rollover to View): palindromous

jumps to mind either. I feel like it might not even be a word/phrase that i know (being a foreign speaker)

Gahh.

i still don't get it. i looked for
 Spoiler (Rollover to View): synonyms for god too. 'deity' looked promising, but nothing like deitied, deititied, deitifitied worked

 Spoiler (Rollover to View): What is the crossword clue was 'made fluid-like' or 'made stone-like'? What five letters do those words end with?

Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 5:33 am
Riveran
Boot

Joined: 16 Jun 2011
Posts: 21
Location: Lansing, Michigan

Re: One of the Ancient-est Crossword Puzzles Ever

Noanymous wrote:
Noanymous wrote:
Argh, i cannot wrap my head around the final answer for the sator square-alike theorem.
 Spoiler (Rollover to View): I got the magic phrase and i understand that it should be used like a crossword question

but i just don't know the answer. and nothing
 Spoiler (Rollover to View): palindromous

jumps to mind either. I feel like it might not even be a word/phrase that i know (being a foreign speaker)

Gahh.

i still don't get it. i looked for
 Spoiler (Rollover to View): synonyms for god too. 'deity' looked promising, but nothing like deitied, deititied, deitifitied worked

 Spoiler (Rollover to View): The word Ancient implies something in the past. like a past-tense. Also, Use spell checker. some of your guesses may appear more promising if spelt correctly.

Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 7:37 am
Iggy
Guest

Re: Puzzly

Riveran wrote:
 ted wrote: I've been looking at this thing for a week now, and I've got to be honest, it's still ticking me off. I've been reading the info in here, and I'm seriously still puzzled. Some of these are mutually exclusive, but most are not, at least to me. Can someone at least help me with that part? At least then I'll know I'm working with the right ones? Thanks, Ted

 Spoiler (Rollover to View): One of the hints tells you the order with which to solve each of the groups. If you figure out the first pair, the next set is answerable based on what you know as true and false from the previous. There will never be a "maybe". The key is to keep looking back at the previouse "solved" groups and using previous concrete information to decide what is true in the future groups. If you know an item is false in one group, the other two are true by default and vise versa. Don't think of the facts as something that is possible for one man to acomplish. Think of it as a chain of logic.

As far as the answer goes

 Spoiler (Rollover to View): you and I aren't the only ones who's favorite beer isn't Dos Equis

From what I can see, there are very few statements that are mutually exclusive. I can see I'm just not going to get this one.

Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 11:38 am
Iggy
Guest

Re: Puzzly

Iggy wrote:
Riveran wrote:
 ted wrote: I've been looking at this thing for a week now, and I've got to be honest, it's still ticking me off. I've been reading the info in here, and I'm seriously still puzzled. Some of these are mutually exclusive, but most are not, at least to me. Can someone at least help me with that part? At least then I'll know I'm working with the right ones? Thanks, Ted

 Spoiler (Rollover to View): One of the hints tells you the order with which to solve each of the groups. If you figure out the first pair, the next set is answerable based on what you know as true and false from the previous. There will never be a "maybe". The key is to keep looking back at the previouse "solved" groups and using previous concrete information to decide what is true in the future groups. If you know an item is false in one group, the other two are true by default and vise versa. Don't think of the facts as something that is possible for one man to acomplish. Think of it as a chain of logic.

As far as the answer goes

 Spoiler (Rollover to View): you and I aren't the only ones who's favorite beer isn't Dos Equis

From what I can see, there are very few statements that are mutually exclusive. I can see I'm just not going to get this one.

Scratch that. Just got it.

Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:00 pm
Riveran
Boot

Joined: 16 Jun 2011
Posts: 21
Location: Lansing, Michigan

Re: Puzzly

Yeah, That puzzly one falls into place all at once. Just have to keep up wiht the chain of logic and it alllll makee sense.

Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:58 pm
Noanymous
Guest

One of the Ancient-est Crossword Puzzles Ever

Thanks, guys. Got the theorem solved now.
However. I did not know this word. I don't have any idea in what context it might have even be used. Half of online translators don't have this word. Only some spell checkers could have helped with this.

The foreign-speakers-unfriendliness of that really bothers me.

Thanks again.

Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:48 pm
uri5el
Guest

puzzly

I joined TMT about a month ago, blasted through most of the theorems and seals, etc. Thought I was pretty clever.

Then last week's theorem hit, and I've been stumped. I don't know much about beer. I feel like I know enough to find exclusive (and therefore untrue) statements in the lists, but now I'm left with a collection of letters, or a collection of sentences, that I can't seem to figure out.

I've read the spoilers, none seem to be striking a chord. i've left and come back, also no good.

anyone got any more suggestions?

Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 7:24 pm
Riveran
Boot

Joined: 16 Jun 2011
Posts: 21
Location: Lansing, Michigan

Re: puzzly

 uri5el wrote: I joined TMT about a month ago, blasted through most of the theorems and seals, etc. Thought I was pretty clever. Then last week's theorem hit, and I've been stumped. I don't know much about beer. I feel like I know enough to find exclusive (and therefore untrue) statements in the lists, but now I'm left with a collection of letters, or a collection of sentences, that I can't seem to figure out. I've read the spoilers, none seem to be striking a chord. i've left and come back, also no good. anyone got any more suggestions?

[Hugespoiler]
 Spoiler (Rollover to View): the answer is not an anagram or typical word game. The answer will be direct from top to bottom. If you have a nonsensical word, then your conclusions are wrong as to which statements are false. Hint 3 tells you the exact order in whicn you should solve the fact groupings. Each successive group will use information gained directly from the preceeding groups to weed out the false statements. There are no Maybes. Pay attention to things like dates and quantities and similar (or identical) clams that re-appear.
[/hugespoiler]

Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 8:29 pm
Cougar Draven
Entrenched

Joined: 30 Oct 2010
Posts: 1147
Location: Potentially everywhere.

Re: puzzly

Riveran wrote:
 uri5el wrote: I joined TMT about a month ago, blasted through most of the theorems and seals, etc. Thought I was pretty clever. Then last week's theorem hit, and I've been stumped. I don't know much about beer. I feel like I know enough to find exclusive (and therefore untrue) statements in the lists, but now I'm left with a collection of letters, or a collection of sentences, that I can't seem to figure out. I've read the spoilers, none seem to be striking a chord. i've left and come back, also no good. anyone got any more suggestions?

[Hugespoiler]
 Spoiler (Rollover to View): the answer is not an anagram or typical word game. The answer will be direct from top to bottom. If you have a nonsensical word, then your conclusions are wrong as to which statements are false. Hint 3 tells you the exact order in whicn you should solve the fact groupings. Each successive group will use information gained directly from the preceeding groups to weed out the false statements. There are no Maybes. Pay attention to things like dates and quantities and similar (or identical) clams that re-appear.
[/hugespoiler]

 Spoiler (Rollover to View): I have to admit, I was a bit surprised at how...straightforward the answer was.

Anyone else get Yet Another Tie? (For bonus points, anyone else /earn/ it? I can provide video of my adorable little one.)
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