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BaronVonCakeman · Unfettered Joined: 13 Oct 2009 Posts: 313 Location: Canada

Sorry, on closer inspection, the "red" that people see seems to be his hand while he's flailing. It appears red due to the lighting. However, I got a shot of something that just about proves there was a third party there that night.

**Posted:** Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:04 am

kenato · Boot Joined: 10 Nov 2009 Posts: 22

Looks like a doorhinge to me...

**Posted:** Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:05 am

iFaux · Decorated Joined: 09 Apr 2009 Posts: 266

Err, looks like a shadow.

**Posted:** Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:06 am

BaronVonCakeman · Unfettered Joined: 13 Oct 2009 Posts: 313 Location: Canada

Oro Invictus

**Posted:** Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:08 am

pumahawk · Boot Joined: 10 Oct 2009 Posts: 27

so we should all start petitioning for jay to go back, right?

;D hahahaha.

i think we're stuck with a whole lot of speculation unless jay finds something else, totheark posts a new response, or the tapes reveal something.

maybe alex had auditions and whatnot on some of the tapes and there were some people we've yet to hear about. maybe some condemning evidence of Sarah or Tim.

this masked person has to be one of the three: tim, sarah, or alex.
or two of the three.

the presence of the masked character and someone else before j arrives, with the presumed assumption that j WAS going to show up last night, makes me believe that there was nothing defensive about what went on. it just seems too out there to me.

**Posted:** Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:09 am

TheAtroxious

J always takes a little while to turn off comments.

And I say it's a doorhinge. It's in the right place, and is the right size. Why would a shadow bleed through the door anyway, or, that notwithstanding, float?

**Posted:** Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:10 am

Goddess-Lost · Guest

**Posted:** Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:11 am

BaronVonCakeman · Unfettered Joined: 13 Oct 2009 Posts: 313 Location: Canada

I am now 98% certain that's a doorhinge. At first I thought the door opened the other way, at that was a crack with a hand sticking out. Sorry again.

This picture will be a bit less useless, I promise.

**Posted:** Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:16 am

Goddess-Lost · Guest

**Posted:** Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:17 am

Ad_Arcana_Tutanda

I've been lurking this for a long time, but I think its finally time for me to get more involved with this... 18 was intense.

**Posted:** Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:19 am

iFaux · Decorated Joined: 09 Apr 2009 Posts: 266

Well, TTA has something to do with this. Pretty sure.

"Come back", remember? He planned this; unless for some reason the masked figure/anyone else there had gotten into the house before TTA and J.

**Posted:** Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:21 am

Oro Invictus

**Posted:** Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:26 am

incedio · Veteran Joined: 16 Oct 2009 Posts: 145

I stil have about 5 pages to read, but I came up with a new theory, not sure if this has been said.

TTA could be MORE THAN ONE PERSON.

We don't even know who he/she/it is, it would possibly be more than one person. SM controls them, they do his bidding, and he wipes their memories. This could also explain J being filmed, maybe SM wanted to get him or something?

The TTA in Entry #18 looks like Tim IMO.

The TTA who attacked J could have subconsciously be helping him, or maybe he recognized J and tried to help him from the other person behind him...

Anyone remember that one trilby game where he touched the doll and he got possessed?

SM plushie....idk it could explain why he lost his memory?

or, he ran out go into his car and drove until he felt safe then crashed......forgot everything when he woke up.

BaronVonCakeman · Unfettered Joined: 13 Oct 2009 Posts: 313 Location: Canada

One more thing before I go to bed: I do not believe EFG attacked J as I did the first time I watched it. Watching at about 0.12x you can clearly see him running straight past J without even looking at him at about 1:53-1:54ish. I really hope that was totheark protecting J and his next video either sheds some light on what happened (missing footage, separate film, etc.) or be an apology to J and a request that they try to meet again.

EDIT: Also, the body structure is too big for Sarah. Wayyy too big. Unless she gained like 80 pounds, Mr. Mask has to be Tim or Brian, I'm almost certain of it. The camera guy looked a bit too small to fit this guy's body type, unfortunately, because I really liked him for totheark. Oh well. It's still possible that EFG WASN'T totheark. Only time will tell.

EDIT AGAIN: The doll. What the hell could it have been for? At first I thought it was some kind of voodoo doll, but it definitely looks like a naked Slender Man. It reminded me of Coraline. =P

**Posted:** Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:29 am