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AnthraX101
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I doubt that it's useful, but the barcode on the luggage tag appears to read "61149".

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more logs


[19:37] <danhon> Good morning, kids
[19:37] <yanka> Dan, hi!
[19:37] <danhon> Solved it yet?
[19:38] <yanka> um... no?
[19:38] <02colin> morn
[19:38] <danhon> Has Adrian tried to redirect you?
[19:38] <yanka> yes, he said it's alison.rtf
[19:38] <yanka> he also said he'd give us more hints in the morning
[19:39] <yanka> *hint*hint*
[19:39] <danhon> Good. You all seemed to have lost direction.
[19:39] <danhon> Redirecting you is probably the best thing he could have done.
[19:39] <02colin> i never had direction
[19:39] <yanka> and he said "direction" at least 87 times, I think
[19:40] <yanka> so we thought about this aibohphobia thing
[19:40] <yanka> and... well, we're still here Smile
[19:40] <danhon> Smile
[19:41] <02colin> a more specific direction would be helpful
[19:42] <yanka> could be chapter 2 [paragraph?] 4 of alice - which one, though?
[19:42] <yanka> could be some sort of redirect script
[19:42] <yanka> oh, Dan, he even went so far as to say "virtual direction"
[19:43] <02colin> (which confused me more)
[19:43] <yanka> naturally
[19:43] <02colin> can i ask why its .rtf not .txt
[19:44] <danhon> Yes
[19:44] <02colin> why is alison.rtf an rtf and not a txt?
[19:44] <danhon> *shrug* Smile
[19:44] <danhon> Now that's an example of heading in the wrong direction Smile
[19:45] <yanka> but "alison" couldn't be any other word/name?
[19:45] <yanka> I guess I can't ask that?
[19:46] <danhon> You can. Same answer as before.
[19:47] <02colin> where does this lead? an address, phone number?
[19:47] <danhon> Getting warmer.
[19:47] <danhon> I think that's me done for the while.
[19:48] <02colin> noooo
[19:48] <02colin> which country is it in
[19:48] <danhon> Okay, one last answer. All of them.
[19:48] <02colin> that's a lot of effort you went to :/
[19:49] <02colin> one more, is the puzzle self contained?
[19:49] <02colin> or do i need some experience to solve it?
[19:53] <yanka> I wonder when Adrian wakes up
[19:53] <02colin> i'll work it out
[19:54] <yanka> you have an idea?
[19:54] <02colin> no
[19:54] <yanka> what do you mean then?
[19:54] <02colin> adrian will be two more hours atleast
[19:54] <02colin> i think
[19:55] <02colin> if its available everywhere, i must be on the web
[19:55] <02colin> *it must
[19:56] <yanka> but then how is "address, phone number" getting warmer?
[19:56] <02colin> web address
[19:56] <yanka> same as url
[19:56] <02colin> or its an object that could be gotten in every country
[19:56] <yanka> you know, it could be something like sunset times or lunar exlipses
[19:57] <yanka> satellite coordinates
[19:57] <yanka> eclipses, even
[19:57] <02colin> but again what does that achieve
[19:58] <yanka> I don't know - a set of numbers?
[19:58] <02colin> its supposed to lead to a larger puzzle
[19:58] <02colin> i'm thinking it could be a subdomain thingy like answer.projectsyzygy.com
[20:00] <yanka> could be, and maybe that's why Adrian said "no" to directory
[20:03] <danhon> You're trying to make this far too hard. Too long. You should try and look for a simpler answer, make it

shorter.
[20:04] <yanka> divide 2oc4o by ptxt?
[20:04] <02colin> is it a code?
[20:05] <02colin> is it creative?
[20:05] <yanka> does it even have a solution?
[20:06] <yanka> Smile
[20:06] <danhon> Yes, it does, and you're trying far too hard.
[20:06] <danhon> There are no sunset times.
[20:06] <danhon> There are no satellite coordinates.
[20:06] <02colin> location?
[20:06] <danhon> There is a location in there.
[20:06] <yanka> a WEB location
[20:06] <danhon> And when you solve it, there'll be some nifty redirection.
[20:06] <yanka> ?
[20:06] <02colin> its so short though
[20:07] <danhon> Beyond that you have to think, Mcfly, think Smile
[20:07] <02colin> i hate manure!
[20:08] <02colin> is :p a smiley
[20:08] *** danhon has left #syzygy (Leaving)
[20:09] <yanka> nooo
[20:09] *** danhon has joined #syzygy
[20:09] <yanka> yes
[20:09] <02colin> wb
[20:09] <danhon> Sorry, can't give any more hints.

[20:22] <yanka> I probably shouldn't even bring that up, but what did pareidolia have to do with this?
[20:23] <danhon> It's a cool word
[20:23] <danhon> I'm allowed to like cool words Smile
[20:23] <yanka> you're not allowed to express that, though Smile
[20:25] <danhon> Redirection is a cool word, too.
[20:25] <02colin> do we need to change the text at all
[20:26] <danhon> It sounds as if you'd like me to just hand you the answer.
[20:26] <yanka> no, there is no fun in that
[20:26] <danhon> Then no more hints Smile
[20:27] <yanka> but, you know, "direct" us? plz?
[20:27] <danhon> Maybe you should sleep on it.
[20:27] <danhon> It's not going to go away!
[20:27] <yanka> no!

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[21:28] <AdrianHon> http://astromm.calstatela.edu/images/gr/BriefHistory/Wormhole_toAlphaCen_p201.jpg
[21:28] *** AdrianHon has quit IRC (Client exited)

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Are they just trying to say go back to the beginning?

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I did a Google search for PTXT (from 2oc4o:ptxt) and came up with this:

http://www.astron.nl/aips++/docs/reference/Glish/node289.html

It may as wel be a foreign language to me, so I can't tell whether this is significant or not. It does, however, seem to fall in line with what seems to be a theme here. Please, someone smart give it a look-see and let us know if it means anything.

Thanks
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Cyfre wrote:
I did a Google search for PTXT (from 2oc4o:ptxt) and came up with this:

http://www.astron.nl/aips++/docs/reference/Glish/node289.html

It may as wel be a foreign language to me, so I can't tell whether this is significant or not. It does, however, seem to fall in line with what seems to be a theme here. Please, someone smart give it a look-see and let us know if it means anything.

Thanks


Just a thought, there are 5 required values in a ptxt string and there are 5 characters before "ptxt" (2oc4o).

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Cyfre wrote:
I did a Google search for PTXT (from 2oc4o:ptxt) and came up with this:

http://www.astron.nl/aips++/docs/reference/Glish/node289.html

It may as wel be a foreign language to me, so I can't tell whether this is significant or not. It does, however, seem to fall in line with what seems to be a theme here. Please, someone smart give it a look-see and let us know if it means anything.

Thanks


No I don't think that is related.

That is just a function someone has made to print text in some program or other. And the first 4 variables need to be numbers (floats) and the last param is a string.

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Re: STUPID STUPID STUPID!!

Anonymous wrote:
http://pareidolia.com/index/2oc40.htm

Man, we are dumb!

Does this URL deserve revisiting? Either it is doing something different now or it was overlooked. Instead of the generic "p a r e i d o l i a" message with no background, I am now seeing a text file containing:

Code:
2oc40:ptxt
2oc-0:ptxt


EDITed with a few notes (that hopefully are meaningful/understandable to more people than just me):
Previous to 2004-03-14, the site exhibited a particular behavior. The front page, contained the text "p a r e i d o l i a" with a tiled image of the "Mars Face." There was also commented-out text, with hard spaces such that two letters "e" and "o" appear below the "e" and "o" in the first line. Any request that started with "/index/" (that is /index/2oc4o, /index/yo/mamma, /index/monkey) would pull up the same content as the original index.html file. (Albeit, the browser interpreted the directory incorrectly and was unable to retrieve the background image, so the background appeared grey.)

On 2004-03-14, the site's characteristics changed. Now http://pareidolia.com/index/2oc40.htm points to a file containing the above text.

Additionally, all of the variants of /index/* (like /index/yo/mamma) work anymore, giving 404 errors. ...save one /index/ninja/monkey/. Also, the "deep directory" pages (at least, the one that is still available) has a working background (specified in a relative URL, rather than an absolute one).

What does this all mean? It could very well be a clue. Alternately, it could be a tired, bored, amused, or evil website administrator. Certainly something changed on the site, but it is interesting to note...

* All the original /index/* requests looked like they got mapped back to the original index file, http://pareidolia.com/index.php. This is pretty easy to do in Apache.
* An administrator of a sleepy site that suddenly saw a zillion hits can check the referrer logs and see they all came from unfiction, then study up on what people have posted on that thread.
* The mapping of /index/* no longer works. This is because the directory /index/ was explicitly created (as well as some subdirectories).
* The only "new" files were ones explicitly linked to from the message boards. For instance, why does /index/ninja/monkey/ work, but /index/ninja/monkey1/ not? The web administrator felt the need to create the directory heirarchy leading to /index/ninja/monkey/index.php, which just seems like he/she wanted to "plug the holes" of all the URLs that link over to to there from here.
* pareidolia.com has existed since 2000-12-07 and was last updated on 2003-12-11.

Personally, I think it is probably a hoax--us chasing the shadow of an innocent word used in chat, and a devious sysadmin having fun with it. On the other hand, it is entiely possible that this is in-game. For instance, if the PM's decided to purchase the domain from someone else, it would explain the date and some content (although leaves the question of why "/index/ninja/monkey" resolves still up in the air).
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Alison Puzzle Database

Hi, guys. I've created a Yahoo group for Syzygy, so I could set up a public database to solve the Alison puzzle. It's here:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/projectsyzygy/database

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Hmm that page has certainly changed. Me thinks they're trying to help us here Smile If only I could figure out how.

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question: Do the keypads work?

2oc4o:ptxt:
Well, despite the many things I've tried; including rotation, looking at in a mirror, bending it upon itself (like the universe pic), and even typing it with my keyboard upside down Laughing, I've come up empty handed.

Since flash doesn't work well on my computer, I want to ask the rest of you this. Does the keyboard or the keypad on the phone, at the flash version of http://www.projectsyzygy.com/images/page1static.jpg, do anything if you type in 2oc4o:ptxt?

Thanks,
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alison.rtf contains "2oc4o" while the parieodowhateverthehell filename (as well as the file itslef) contains "2oc40".

'o' vs. '0'

Does it mean anything? Is it a typo?

It's one of those little differences that make me want to cry.

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Re: STUPID STUPID STUPID!!

BriEnigma wrote:
Does this URL deserve revisiting? Either it is doing something different now or it was overlooked. Instead of the generic "p a r e i d o l i a" message with no background, I am now seeing a text file containing:

Code:
2oc40:ptxt
2oc-0:ptxt



Definitely weird... if we treat this as legit/in-game for the moment, what bugs me is that it shows on screen like this:

Code:
2oc40:ptxt 2oc-0:ptxt


because the source is just a non-HTML tagged plain-text file, but in the source, the two are underneath eachother, which kinda puts the focus on the dash in the place of the 4, which makes me wonder what significance that 4 has. Before, it was 2oc3o, which has been corrected, but I wonder if it was perhaps intentionally shown first, also to stress the importance of the 4?
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Re: STUPID STUPID STUPID!!

Giskard wrote:
BriEnigma wrote:
Does this URL deserve revisiting? Either it is doing something different now or it was overlooked. Instead of the generic "p a r e i d o l i a" message with no background, I am now seeing a text file containing:

Code:
2oc40:ptxt
2oc-0:ptxt



Definitely weird... if we treat this as legit/in-game for the moment, what bugs me is that it shows on screen like this:

Code:
2oc40:ptxt 2oc-0:ptxt


because the source is just a non-HTML tagged plain-text file, but in the source, the two are underneath eachother, which kinda puts the focus on the dash in the place of the 4, which makes me wonder what significance that 4 has. Before, it was 2oc3o, which has been corrected, but I wonder if it was perhaps intentionally shown first, also to stress the importance of the 4?


That would be because the file on the website uses 0x0A as a line delimiter. This is the standard in *nix based systems. Windows based systems generaly use 0x0D0A, and Mac based systems use 0x0D. I'm not sure how true this is anymore, especially due to OS X.

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Alison.rtf

Just read the alison file again and it's changed.
Now it contains a quote with numbers interspreresed, the quote is:
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the race is not to
the swift,
nor the battle to the strong, neither yet bread to the wise, nor yet
riches
to men of understanding, nor yet favour to men of skill; but time
and chance
happeneth to them all

When you read the letters closest to the numbers in numerical order, you get 'marketing week', which is a weekly uk publication on, yes thats right folks: marketing. Under the quote reads:
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Page 60
.
And i'm spent... for now Twisted Evil
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The quote is from:
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Hebrew Ecclesiastes 9:11
. And on different terms theres a LOT of copies of Marketing Week out there. And if the source of the quote has anything to do with Marketing Week, then using it as a release date for the issue, the only year it has been released on that date is 2003.
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