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Spyridon
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 Rogi Ocnorb wrote: Weird bipolar string of numbers where the first one (6) seems out of place. It's a count of the numbers from 1-64 going both forward and backward. Not sure what schema determines the mixing of the two (1-64 and 64-1)

Umm...huh? Haha...can you explain what you mean?

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 4:55 pm
Rogi Ocnorb
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Just start counting the individual numbers from the beginning. You'll see what I mean.
Then do it from the end, as well.
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 4:57 pm
Spyridon
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 Rogi Ocnorb wrote: Just start counting the individual numbers from the beginning. You'll see what I mean. Then do it from the end, as well.

You're right...I do see what you mean. But then, what does the six mean? That's the only one that doesn't fit, i think.

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 5:02 pm
tipsila
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I noticed some of the sequence is smaller that other parts... not sure what it means yet.

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EDIT - and now it looks wrong here although, at first in preview it looked fine ... sorry about that.

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 5:03 pm
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Rogi Ocnorb
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 Spyridon wrote: You're right...I do see what you mean. But then, what does the six mean? That's the only one that doesn't fit, i think.
Unless it was really meant to be "64".
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 5:04 pm
Spyridon
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Yeah, maybe it was meant to be 64. Maybe, also, it is supposed to be 64, and the fact that it's not is a clue...

And tipsila, I tried just putting the smaller parts of the junk DNA into a decoder, but it didn't work....maybe the larger parts will

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 5:08 pm
tipsila
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Rogi Ocnorb wrote:
 Spyridon wrote: You're right...I do see what you mean. But then, what does the six mean? That's the only one that doesn't fit, i think.
Unless it was really meant to be "64".

Well it is an 8 x 8 grid....

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 5:09 pm
Snowbeat
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I just has a thought...

I was thinking along the lines that "This is the beginning of the ancient word" was just a reference to the beginning of the ARG. But I then saw it in conjunction with the 8x8 code. What if the code actually contains the literal beginning of an ancient word? Perhaps the key word to the ursprache.

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 5:13 pm
James Stone
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Contacting Joshua

I called Dr Ambergris and got his voicemail. I snipped of the very beginning where he says his name, sorry. So I thought I would send him an email and got an autoreply:

 Dr Joshua Ambergris wrote: It isn't safe for me to receive email any longer at Triad Genomics. We're going to have to use more clandestine channels to communicate. I don't know who to trust, so I've hidden clues on how to contact me -- they are located in places you should be able to find if you truly are one of my allies. Good luck and Godspeed. Sincerely, JOSHUA AMBERGRIS Triad Genomics, Inc. One Millennium Tower New York, NY 10005

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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 5:16 pm
danashulps
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Thanks, James.

OK, here's what I've gathered.

Inside Junk DNA, Dr. Ambergris (I spelled that wrong, didn't I?) has discovered an ancient prophecy. This is from his first Myspace blog. If we assume that he calls this prophecy the Ancient Word, then it would make sense for that 8 x 8 grid to be the beginning of the prophecy... if we could only translate it. Somehow, each number represents a letter, I assume, and he's gotten these letters from DNA.

My head hurts. But it's a good kind of hurt.

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 5:27 pm
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notgordian
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"This is the beginning of the ancient word" is probably a reference to the Popol Vuh, the Mayan creation myth that starts with those words.

Wikipedia's translation uses "root" instead of "beginning", but other sources quote it verbatim. Looks like we're looking for some form of story within the DNA, I'd presume.

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 5:32 pm
Giskard
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I wanted to inform you guys that I have disabled the Unfiction account of 'Quiz' due to a violation of the Unfiction TOS. The account was purposefully registered as an in-game character and he sent various people PMs posing as a character, which is isn't allowed.

Now, standard procedure would have me lock this thread, but I don't want to spoil your fun if I don't have to... I'm awaiting an explanation by Quiz and the assurance that these boards will not be used in an in-game manner in the future before doing anything else.
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 5:35 pm
Snowbeat
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As obtuse as the puzzles may be, at least they're well-written.

I have no knowledge of coding, but since all clues point us in the direct of the number 64... could the 8x8 code be in base 64?

EDIT: I don't really mind PM's posting on here, but it is intrusive and a bit of a failure of imagination on the PM's part.

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 5:36 pm
danashulps
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^^ that sounds about right... Ambergris' myspace mentions Mayan culture, so I'd assume that's what we're looking at.

For what it's worth, I doubt it was supposed to be a 64... not that I understand the reasoning, but the official press release from the publisher has it as a 6. I posted that link earlier, but here it is again.

http://www.thegenesiscode.com/files/The_Genesis_Code_Press_Kit_-_Christopher_Forrest.pdf

It's on the second page, along with an email address for Christopher Madison and Dr. Ambergris.

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 5:39 pm
Snowbeat
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Hurrah for name change!

Now I feel legimately legitimized!

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 6:02 pm
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