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caraj
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[Hex Set] Silver #235 - Circuitous

Wave 4 Silver

Cara
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Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 8:15 am
DarkHuman
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1 : having a circular or winding course <a circuitous route>
2 : not being forthright or direct in language or action <a circuitous explanation>
ok, it's a circut, i'm guessing television . radio

i see a speaker next to the "?"
0.2F-?
a 12V power source and 6 resistors;
230KΩ,
5.5MΩ, (switch)
2.2KΩ, (switch,+FF?)
290MΩ,
110Ω,
770MΩ,
 Spoiler (Rollover to View): Ω >Ohm =Ohm's law, named after its discoverer Georg Ohm, states that the potential difference between two points on a conductor or resistor and the current flowing through it are proportional.(from wikipedia)

I just think that's too easy of an answer.

if its a radio, then it's
 Spoiler (Rollover to View): Marconi

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Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 2:59 pm
KingOfWrong
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Following standard circuit conventions, there are four separate circuits there. The loop, the 2-in/4-out XNOR gate, the 1-in/1-out AND gate, the 2-in/1-out-via-galvanometer OR gate and the 1-in/2-out NOT gate.

The loop has multiple resistors in series, which is rather strange, and the positive terminals of the batteries going directly to ground, which is even more so. My interpretation is that the bulb will be lit so long as there is battery charge remaining and that it's some sort of Morse code/telegraph system - one "on/off" switch, one code tapper (the non-standard switch designs seem to imply that), speaker with slight filtering. Not sure what the purpose of the logic (i.e. digital electronics, in the midst of all this analogue) is.

Another possibility is the colour codes on the resistors:
230KΩ = Red/Orange/Yellow
5.5MΩ = Green/Green/Green
2.2KΩ = Red/Red/Red
290MΩ = Red/White/Violet*
110Ω = Brown/Brown/Brown
770MΩ = Violet/Violet/Violet*
(* - Violet may or may not be valid for the multiplier band)

For completeness, the capacitor would have a code of 204 (2.0x10 4 pF)

Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 3:41 am
fretty
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What is the black mark above aiko?

Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 4:27 am
DarkHuman
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 fretty wrote: What is the black mark above aiko?

another country in the pxc war.
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Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 10:59 am
Relish
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 KingOfWrong wrote: , the 1-in/1-out AND gate,

that bit is pointless on the circuit, its the same as having a wire with nothing attached, ie a 0 in = 0 out and 1 in = 1 out.

For that reason im thinking perhaps the words are important rather than the diagrams, AND , OR , and NOT?
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Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 2:17 am
arnezami
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There appear to be small digits in the top-left corner of this card.

Could somebody please write them down here. We are discussing these digits here btw.

arnezami

Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 11:25 pm
Furry Mark
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Digits are:

1-4444444434444444444443-4
4-222233332222.5-1
(Horizontal)

(Posted in the other thread as well)

Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 2:25 am
Skizz
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This is a very pointless circuit. Closing the two switches wouldn't make anything happen - the very high resistor values act as effect insulators. If these were lower, all that would happen is that the capacitor would charge up (with lamp lit) and once charged, no further current would flow (lamp off). Further flipping the switches would have no effect whatsoever. The current flows anti-clockwise so the diode (black triangle) has no effect. Incidentally, the ground connected to the +ve terminal is OK - it just means the -ve terminal is at -V volts with respect to ground (where V is the cell rating).

The card directly mentions the electronics related scientists:
 Spoiler (Rollover to View): Faraday - the unit of capacitance, Ohm - the unit of resistance and Volta - the unit of voltage

But there's also a lot of digital stuff in there too (the switches and gates) which could then be:
 Spoiler (Rollover to View): Claude Elwood Shannon

which is further reinforced by his work on communication theory (reference to speaker and lamp).

Skizz (who has an electronics degree and this makes no sense whatsoever)

Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 9:41 am
Skizz
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Actually, thinking about it, the scientists mentioned above are all related to the development of electrical circuits, so the answer could be:
 Spoiler (Rollover to View): electronics, circuits (unlikely), electricity and not necessarily a person.

Skizz

Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 9:45 am
thereverendeg
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Well

The solve page asks for the first name only, so I'm pretty sure it's a person.

Tried the following without success:
 Spoiler (Rollover to View): Michael (as in Faraday) Georg (Ohm) Claude

So I guess it's none of them.

Maybe...
 Spoiler (Rollover to View): Ben Franklin? Or Charles-Augustin Coloumb? Heh, that would be an interesting one to figure out how to enter. Maybe it's supposed to be related to radio or transistors somehow, in which case perhaps Julius Edgar Liliefeld?

Meh... too many people. Then again it may be some cryptic story encoded using circuit components, and we are supposed to name the main character.

Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 9:55 am
makomk
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Hmmm... that looks like a fairly good selection of circuit diagram symbols there. Maybe something to do with the inventor of the symbols?</long-shot>

The only thing that's obvious is that this makes no sense as an actual circuit.

Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 10:47 am
thereverendeg
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another idea

I was thinking because of the switches and speaker it might have something to do with a telegraph or some such thing. I don't know where the logic gates would come in here, though. Maybe...

 Spoiler (Rollover to View): Perhaps Joseph Henry of Samuel Morse, though both of them used bells in their designs rather than speakers - morse later also used printing

Some other interesting tidbits...

I think it also might be relavent to note that there are two circuits on this card, one of which contains logic gates and the other of which does not. The one which doesn't contain any gates has the entire circuit shown, and the one containing the gates is an entirely independent circuit from the one we have the entire view of. Actually, because we can't see the connections which are outside the card the second (logic) circuit could actually be four different circuits.

It might also be relavent to note that the notation used for the resistors implies either German or UK notation (looking at the speaker symbol implies UK rather than German, which has a bold line through the rectangular part of the symbol traditionally), but the logic circuits correspond with American (MIL/ANSI) symbols.

Most of this info on regional notation I'm basing off of:

http://www.nutsvolts.com/PDF_Files/circuit.pdf

Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 12:22 pm
hendo77
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Von's Hint:

 Spoiler (Rollover to View): Resist guessing

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 7:18 am
arieh
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I note a siver line, beginning in the border but crossing the main card. Is this a standard feature of Silvers (I don't have enough to know)?

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 6:33 pm
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