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[SOLVED] #79 Yellow - Strange Loops (E3)
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 		[SOLVED] #79 Yellow - Strange Loops (E3)
WARNING -- this post is junk -- see below for correct solve -- Embarassed

forgive me if this has already been looked at

as i see it - without using the 3rd dimension the only way of drawing the lines would be by using fractal folding where every line passes thru every point without crossing -- topologicaly possible in the mathematical sense but impossible with a pencil

or did i read the rules wrong Very Happy

PS it could be done with and infinitely deep spiral -- all lines coming together at the limit -- none crossing
forget it -- solve below

Edit: full topic - GuyP
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 		Strange Loops - Img file?
Hi Tanner (or anyone in a nice mood!), have you got a pic of this one? I just saw HitHerMarks photo album, but for this card, the pics a bit blurred.
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 		Re: Strange Loops - Img file?
Rammer wrote:
Hi Tanner (or anyone in a nice mood!), have you got a pic of this one? I just saw HitHerMarks photo album, but for this card, the pics a bit blurred.


http://tinyurl.com/9bn6n

sorry but thats the one i worked on -- thats why i may have got the instructions wrong

[EDIT: tinyurl. yanka.]
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 		My reading of the words is:

Is it possible to draw some (?) lines that intersect each of these [mathematical?] shapes?

The lines don't need to be straight, but they can't pass through other shapes, cross, or go outside the rectangle.
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 		Is this what they're after??

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http://photobucket.com/albums/y203/SixSidedSquare/?action=view&current=Strange-Loops-PreRelease-front.jpg


Or am I just making a bad guess??

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 		I think I've got my first solve!! Very Happy

Guess I was paying attention in those Graph Theory lectures!!
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sixsidedsquare wrote:
Is this what they're after??

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
http://photobucket.com/albums/y203/SixSidedSquare/?action=view&current=Strange-Loops-PreRelease-front.jpg


Or am I just making a bad guess??


hey thats cool -- how did i miss that -- kudos to you Smile

i should not have attempted anything before the intake of copious amounts of caffeine
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 		Guess I took to long trying to convert my image to the correct format! Sad

Well done sixsidedsquare

By the way could a friendly MOD spoiler my solution as i couldn't get it to work, thanks
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 		Wow, I actually may have gotten a solve, and even praise from tanner. Yay for me.
I was wondering what you were on about with all the fractal folding and the like.

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 		i was looking at life from a overcomplicated angle as usual Smile))

what i need are multi dimensional fractal puzzles -- hahaha
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 		I'm wondering how this solution will eventually be entered on the web. Unless there's more to the questions, you'll have to actually draw the lines on an applet or something.. or submit your answer as an image which will be manually verified..

hmm..

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 		nah, the answer to the actual question it asks is just
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Yes


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 		just
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YES
i assume -- shrugs

aaaah -- snap
Very Happy
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 		Absolutely right, guys. Although having a card where, really, a 50/50 choice between 'yes' and/or 'no' might have yielded you the correct answer without actually doing the puzzle seems a tiny bit simplistic to me...

Clearly, though, this is pure prototype, and we have no idea what hellish new complexities will be(?) added to the card proper to bamboozle us further...

'Strange loops' are about the size of it though, seemingly...
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