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rose
...and then Magic happens


Joined: 26 Nov 2003
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 		Thanks rowan!

Sin wrote:
Quote:
anyone got a compiler handy to try to run the mishmash (or possibly just the binary) through?


paging BriEnigma

PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 12:08 pm
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catherwood
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 		I took a slightly different path with the spaces and tabs. First I only treated them as -'s and *'s, and noticed that every other line at the beginning had the same initial "digits", so I paired them up into columns:
Code:
 1 ---*---*-* **----    * 0001000101  11000000001
 2 ---**-***- **----   *- 0001101110  11000000010
 3 ---***-*-- **----   ** 0001110100  11000000011
 4 ---**--*-* **----  *-- 0001100101  11000000100
 5 ---***--*- **----  *-* 0001110010  11000000101
 6 ---*-----  **----  **- 0001000000  11000000110
 7 ---**----* **----  *** 0001100001  11000000111
 8 ---*-----  **---- *--- 000100000.  11000001000
 9 ---**-***- **---- *--* 0001101110  11000001001
10 ---***-*-* **---- *-*- 0001110101  11000001010
11 ---**-**-* **---- *-** 0001101101  11000001011
12 ---**---*- **---- **-- 0001100010  11000001100
13 ---**--*-* **---- **-* 0001100101  11000001101
14 ---***--*- **---- ***- 0001110010  11000001110
15 ---***-*-  **---- **** 000111010.  11000001111
16 ---*-----  **----*---- 000100000.  11000010000

I do have the same 1's and 0's as Bill, but I added 0's to "normalize" the column size. The second column is simply incrementing, but the first column spells out ENTER A NUMBER...

PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 12:21 pm
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bill
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 		It's actually 3 columns of digits
the last column is growing sequentially
the middle column is 110000

I have no idea what is up with the lines that have 4 spaces. they must be a delimiter or something.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 12:35 pm
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bill
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 		after converting what could be converted to ascii, I have:
Code:
00 E  110000   1
00 N  110000  10
00 T  110000  11
00 E  110000 100
00 R  110000 101
00    110000 110
00 A  110000  111
00    110000 1000
00 N  110000 1001
00 U  110000 1010
00 M  110000 1011
00 B  110000 1100
00 E  110000 1101
00 R  110000 1110
00 :  110000 1111
00    110000 10000
00 00 110000 10100
00 !  110000 10101
00    110000 10110
00 =  110000 10111
00    110000 11000
00 00 110000 0

01 write
00 d
1
1100 d
111
01 fact
00 d
1111
01 00010100

01 write
1
01
01 newline




00 fact
0
00001
1001
10 factbase
0
00001
1001
01 fact
100

1

00 factbase
0001
0


1

00 add
1000
1

00 write
0
01110
0
10 write_end
1
000001
1000
0
write

00 write_end
0

0


1

00 read
0
00
01
101110
00001010
1001
10 read_end
0

0001
1000
0
read

00 read_end
0

0001
10000000
110
1

00 newline
0001010
0001101
1
001
00
1


edit: spaces on lines added for clarity. Line spacing left intact.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 1:11 pm
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Russell_k
Entrenched


Joined: 11 Feb 2005
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Location: London

 		Ok i have to go now, but just thought i would point out that the background has been changed from what it was. Now instead of the planets pic, its just blank. Good luck and will check in tomorrow.

PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 1:21 pm
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drizjr
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 		And it has changed again from an all white page to a black page. Source now says "WHAT_IS_WHITESPACE?"

PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 1:46 pm
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rose
...and then Magic happens


Joined: 26 Nov 2003
Posts: 4104

 		whitespace interpreter
Don't know if this is useful but this links to a prototype whitespace character interpreter. Maybe there are others?


http://compsoc.dur.ac.uk/whitespace/index.php
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 2:05 pm
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Sin Vraal
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Joined: 28 Nov 2002
Posts: 217
Location: NJ

 		More on Whitespace
You are on the right track, and here's a link to other platform interpreters:

http://compsoc.dur.ac.uk/whitespace/

PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 2:35 pm
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SpaceBass
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 		Good work, Rose! That's it!

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Downloaded the whitespace binary and the goodwork.htm page, renamed goodwork.htm to soogees.ws, uploaded both to my linux server and ran it a couple of times:

[root@caedmon soogees]# ./wspace soogees.ws
Enter a number: 1
1! = 1
Done.
Stack size 0
Heap size 101
[root@caedmon soogees]#
[root@caedmon soogees]# ./wspace soogees.ws
Enter a number: 2
2! = 2
Done.
Stack size 0
Heap size 101

This led me to http://www.soogees.com/factorial.htm

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 2:56 pm
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catherwood
I Never Tire of My Own Voice

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 		Edit: I did neglect to mention that we're on the next stage here. I'll make Sin_Vraal's following post look silly by documenting the solution.
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
I took the comment text on factorial.htm and compared it to a copy of the Gutenburg text, which has the same line breaks. Using WinDiff, I could list all of the "typos" in our text. The common error was that a single letter was missing from various lines, and the order of the errors was thus:
-C -A -S -C -I -L -S
but Sin_Vraal correctly decided to scramble their order until finding classic.htm


and now for the gif... Image with color palette modified to highlight the squares:
classic.gif
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classic.gif

PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 3:18 pm
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Sin Vraal
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 		previous puzzle
What Cath neglected to mention was the puzzle before this.

We went to a white block with Sun Tzu's Art of War in the sourcecode.

Cath read us the typo differences throughout the text comparing it to as close a text as we could find online, and we got most of the letters, CASCL as well as a couple other accidental ones based on the version she found.

It was enough for me to get classic.htm

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bwochinski
Decorated

Joined: 06 Oct 2003
Posts: 164
Location: Wisconsin

 		I substitued letters for the symbols found on the classic.htm page..

here's the substitution:
Code:

ABCDECFCGHFIJBCDKFCELMNIJ
BCKLJJCFOJBCDECIJJHEHFPQJ
JECRSCJBCDMQOOCTJBFHLKBQG
FNCUGRHOOHVNIKMCFNHTHUGCQ
LJDQITOCWLQRTCONFCABCDVQF
FNCTQAAECIADABCDECFCVNTTR
CQKCTQAABNFADABCDTNCTUHFA
BCVHOAMQFAQAONWADBCQSDMBD
ONXQREHFPABCXQFCHUBHVCQIT
XBNRTFCIMCAADYLQFFCROENAB
ICNKBGHFOUNRVOIHHAGQRRGCC
FQITQGHSCQRRKQVGRNIKUNRRC
TLMABCBHFNZHIHUABCNFVNITO

classic.gif
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classic.gif

PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 4:27 pm
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bill
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 		A bit of frequency analysis:

Code:
A  22 |B  22 |C  44 |D  14 |E  9
F  24 |G   9 |H  20 |I  14 |J  12
K   8 |L   7 |M   7 |N  20 |O  14
P   2 |Q  22 |R  15 |S   3 |T  15
U   7 |V   8 |W   2 |X   3 |Y   1
Z   1

Digraphs
BC 7 | CD 5 | HF 4 | FN 4 | FC 4
VN 3 | RR 3 | ON 3 | JB 3 | IT 3
CQ 3 | CI 3 | AB 3 | XQ 2 | QA 2
NR 2 | MQ 2 | MC 2 | JJ 2 | IK 2
IH 2 | HU 2 | GC 2 | FA 2 | EC 2
CT 2 | CR 2 | BH 2 | AA 2

Trigraphs
ABC 6 | JBC 3 | DEC 3
QRR 2 | NCT 2 | HFP 2
FNC 2 | DAB 2 | CTQ 2


Digraph and trigraph numbers are probably skewed by the lack of spaces/
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Dr. Oid
Boot

Joined: 17 Feb 2005
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Location: Budapest, Hungary
Spoiler (Rollover to View):

THEY WERE BORN
THEY GREW UP IN THE GUTTERS
THEY WENT TO WORK AT TWELVE
THEY PASSED THROUGH A BRIEF BLOSSOMING PERIOD OF BEAUTY AND SEXUAL DESIRE
THEY MARRIED AT TWENTY
THEY WERE MIDDLE AGED AT THIRTY
THEY DIED FOR THE MOST PART AT SIXTY
HEAVY PHYSICAL WORK
THE CARE OF HOME AND CHILDREN
PETTY QUARRELS WITH NEIGHBORS
FILMS FOOTBALL BEER
AND ABOVE ALL GAMBLING FILLED UP THE HORIZON OF THEIR MINDS

First try:
http://www.soogees.com/1984.htm

Then:
http://www.soogees.com/bigbrother.htm


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SpaceBass
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 		Dr. Oid: How did you translate the image?
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