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Idran1701
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Joined: 24 Aug 2004 Posts: 73
Nope, doesn't translate to anything intelligible.
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 6:12 am
seirei
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Joined: 21 Dec 2004 Posts: 17
hm. no hex, eh? still, I have a feeling those numbers are significant.
any thoughts?
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 10:51 am
cornetchap
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Joined: 17 Dec 2004 Posts: 25 Location: Watford, UK
I'm afraid I may just be dense but I've just noticed that the Wildfire Industries website flash intro sports lots of what look like organic compound structures. Could they be involved in genetic modification technology? But what has that got to do with e-business?
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 12:16 pm
miss_seph
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Joined: 04 Aug 2004 Posts: 395 Location: New Zealand
I took the numbers that were posted on page 1 from the website flash movie, removed all the zeroes and got this:
6 8 4 7 1 9 8 2 6 4 4 7 7 9
Replaced the letters with corresponding letters in the alphabet and got
f h d g a i h b f d d g g i
tried rot'ing it and got a lot of gibberish.
so nothing in that one. Guess I'll keep trying other random ideas then
Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 4:20 pm
cornetchap
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Joined: 17 Dec 2004 Posts: 25 Location: Watford, UK
Here's a thought I'm having regarding the numbers that "fly by" on the flash intro:
The flash has a background of organic compounds which could be genetic material such as proteins. There are "protein alphabets" (e.g. DNA has a 7 letter alphabet: AGCTRYN) It's possible that the number sequence represents a protein sequence and we need to apply the correct alphabet.
http://bioweb.pasteur.fr/docs/sam/node9.html
as an example. There may be better web pages to search out. Thoughts? Anyone good with protein chemistry?
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 11:09 am
Idran1701
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Minor query: I thought DNA only had four, A-T and C-G.
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 2:42 am
GabrielBlade
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Those are Base Pairs, the proteins are a little different. I haven't done any Biology in a few years, but I do recall there being actually about 12 proteins of different sorts that were defined by different orders of the 3-base pair groups... hrmmmph.
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Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 5:22 am
Gestas
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Idran1701 wrote:
Minor query: I thought DNA only had four, A-T and C-G.
GabrielBlade wrote:
Those are Base Pairs, the proteins are a little different. I haven't done any Biology in a few years, but I do recall there being actually about 12 proteins of different sorts that were defined by different orders of the 3-base pair groups... hrmmmph.
Well, there are 4 nucleotide bases for DNA: A, G, C, T. In RNA Uracil (U) replaces T. However, when we do DNA sequencing there are a number of other letters used to represent the different combinations. R, Y and N are the most common, representing the purines (A,G), the pyrimidines (C,T), or any of the 4 bases respectively.
Then there are others for the other combos. A nice page listing them all, as well as the 20 common amino acids in proteins is found here. .
So to recap - 20 amino acids with 1 letter codes (as well as a couple more combo letters) listed at the top of that page.
4 DNA bases, but loads of different letters representing combinations (useful for sequencing, and when looking at differences between sequences) listed at the bottom of the page
Sorry if this is increasingly off-topic - but if you want to check for a code, that page should prove useful for matching up letters and things.
(I'm thinking I should at least go watch the flash intro now )
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 7:45 am
Gestas
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I looked at the intro flash page, and they go by really quickly!
They don't really look like amino acids or bases to me - more like some type of lipid or sugar in terms of complexity. They could equally well be a series of related complex chemicals though (biological or non-biological).
The way they appeared to be laid out seemed to suggest the person who put the Flash intro together just grabbed a figure of closely-related chemical species as a backdrop.
I might be wrong, but with the amount of overlay and blurring, I don't really think there's a code to be found in them
Edit: I'm almost tempted to think it is some kind of antibiotic series, but that's just a guess
2nd and Last Edit: I did see reaction arrows in there, so it seems to be a few steps in the synthesis of something. However, I can't read the words which go by (even now I have discovered the step-through of Flash). In addition, the structures are duplicated twice on the intro - once on the left, and repeated on the right half of the flash intro.
That's about all I can get from it, and it's probably nothing anyway
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 8:00 am
hkdl
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Joined: 29 Oct 2004 Posts: 347 Location: Hamilton, OH
yeah I'd agree, I think this is probably a red herring.
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 9:37 am
GabrielBlade
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Knowing Delton's sense of humour, I'll wager it's probably caffeine.
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Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 3:33 am
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