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PUZZLE: Greywethers WPFE puzzle

**Posted:** Sun Jun 08, 2003 4:20 pm

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"Illegitimi non carborundum"
QmFzZTY0IGlzIGZvciBnZWVrcy4=
cW5hYWw= @ cGJ0YXZndmlydW5lemJhbA== . YXJn

danman_d

OK, there are 82 characters including spaces. Which ALMOST fits into a 9x9 grid:

**Posted:** Sun Jun 08, 2003 4:22 pm

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"Illegitimi non carborundum"
QmFzZTY0IGlzIGZvciBnZWVrcy4=
cW5hYWw= @ cGJ0YXZndmlydW5lemJhbA== . YXJn

danman_d

The poem is supposed to be shown in the font "High Tower Text" which looks like this:

Probably doesnt matter...

-Dan

**Posted:** Sun Jun 08, 2003 4:39 pm

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"Illegitimi non carborundum"
QmFzZTY0IGlzIGZvciBnZWVrcy4=
cW5hYWw= @ cGJ0YXZndmlydW5lemJhbA== . YXJn

dmax

I think we need to take the poem and make it a poem.

bare and share are the only two words that rhyme, so they're the ends of the lines. (I doubt that each line ends with "to" but they also rhyme, technically)

Once we have a real poem out of the nonsense, THEN we apply the numerical clue.

**Posted:** Sun Jun 08, 2003 4:44 pm

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That sounds like something Hitler would say!

dmax

partial progress?

**Posted:** Sun Jun 08, 2003 5:01 pm

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That sounds like something Hitler would say!

Caterpillar

I was working on trying to figure out possibly which space to remove to make it fit the grid. I got the words SAINT and on another attempt HASTE. But it's not getting me far....lol

**Posted:** Sun Jun 08, 2003 5:07 pm

catherwood

I slapped together a page with the letters in an html grid for better viewing. This was using the original order of the words, but i'll work on a follow-up version with the words as a rhyming sentence. [revised from 82 letters to 81]

zounds · Veteran Joined: 06 Jun 2003 Posts: 146 Location: UK

Thanx for that attachment, bit easier on the eyes.

That extra space or letter is really throwing me out, it says 9x9 defines the wall so I can't see how anything could be outside - but it says also count ALL spaces and letters.

**Posted:** Sun Jun 08, 2003 5:37 pm

Aveena

poem changed

**Posted:** Sun Jun 08, 2003 5:40 pm

danman_d

Revised grid:

**Posted:** Sun Jun 08, 2003 5:46 pm

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"Illegitimi non carborundum"
QmFzZTY0IGlzIGZvciBnZWVrcy4=
cW5hYWw= @ cGJ0YXZndmlydW5lemJhbA== . YXJn

MageSteff

SPEC: wpfe page

**Posted:** Sun Jun 08, 2003 6:21 pm

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Magesteff
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Diandra · Unfettered Joined: 26 Sep 2002 Posts: 390

Grid

**Posted:** Sun Jun 08, 2003 6:45 pm

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You can't solve vast puzzles with half-vast ideas!

Caterpillar

Well I've tried entering it in different ways...straight in, clockwise, and top to bottom. No luck...no shape that I can see (and I used red and black to make it easy to see something if it was there:). I thought may braille...but no luck there either (which makes sense as it said "shape").

~cem

**Posted:** Sun Jun 08, 2003 8:18 pm

catherwood

just figured i'd post my html masterpiece version of what we have in chat so far...

**Posted:** Sun Jun 08, 2003 8:27 pm

Myssfitz

If this is supposed to be anything like a crossword puzzle, which can sometimes leave a shape with the blank spaces, wouldn't it have to be symmetric?

There are:

3- 1 letter words
6- 2 letter words
4- 3 letter words
6- 4 letter words
2- 5 letter words
20 spaces

**Posted:** Sun Jun 08, 2003 8:37 pm

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Well, Moo