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FilmEdge wrote:

I can't compare all the image analysis right now, but generally it could be plausible speculation. Numbering those aliens in search of their missing friend sure sounds reminiscent of NIGHT SKIES.

very true yea i havent had time to compare all myself

[FilmEdge]

I can't compare all the image analysis right now, but generally it could be plausible speculation.

Numbering those aliens in search of their missing friend sure sounds reminiscent of NIGHT SKIES.

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posted on super 8 news

[The Barmaid]

Would it be one lone truckman or perhaps there is some group out there in the area who has more scoop?

It's hard looking for ufo/area 51 "eggs" if there are any, too many "legit" whacky ufo sites...how to tell fiction from fiction? Hah!

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FilmEdge wrote:

The Barmaid wrote: For me, I think the driver wanted to intercept the train but possibly not necessarily to save any cargo...maybe the whole idea was destruction, only thing or thing in the box got loose. Too early, sure, but a crazy local wanting to stop the government wouldn't be out of the question To me, from what we can see in the trailer, the truck's collision with the train is deliberate and bent on destruction for a couple of reasons: - The truck appears to be racing toward the RR intersection as it to catch the train *before* it arrives there. Had the driver simply wanted to stop the train and maybe hijack the 'cargo', he could have simply stopped the truck on the tracks at the crossing. Good luck hijacking a military transport, but stopping the train itself would have been easy by comparison. - The truck driver then barrels up the tracks toward the oncoming train. This takes dedication and some strength just to ride the rail ties at that speed, let alone be on a suicide mission. - The plan seems to be quite desperate in that there's no guarantee such a truck hit would automatically cause the train to derail given the ratios of mass between them. But, to me, it's a strong indicator that the driver knew a speeding head-on was the BEST chance to derail the train, and thus the only option. Such a freighter would likely have obliterated a parked truck on the tracks and barreled ahead delivering the goods. - I'm no expert, but it seems likely that it's easier to derail a train on 'bare' tracks than at a paved intersection, where the pavement which surrounds the rail 'gap' might well hold the train wheels in the rut and prevent a derailment. If so, the driver was intent on hitting the train down the line instead of at the intersection for that reason. This desperate action again seems to speak of intent. - In short, the collision seems to play out like an attack on the train and/or its contents: destruction with the intent to destroy and literally derail the train's mission. Kill the 'cargo' — hopefully but with no guarantee, but this wild act was the best impromptu plan for stopping the train and hopefully doing the max amount of damage intended. Sure looks to me like an all-or-nothing act, though I wouldn't say it was a 'crazy' act, just a very desperate one. What prompts such a desperate sacrifice may be some indicator of what's bashing its way out of that freight car.

agreed

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The Barmaid wrote:

For me, I think the driver wanted to intercept the train but possibly not necessarily to save any cargo...maybe the whole idea was destruction, only thing or thing in the box got loose. Too early, sure, but a crazy local wanting to stop the government wouldn't be out of the question

To me, from what we can see in the trailer, the truck's collision with the train is deliberate and bent on destruction for a couple of reasons:

- The truck appears to be racing toward the RR intersection as it to catch the train *before* it arrives there. Had the driver simply wanted to stop the train and maybe hijack the 'cargo', he could have simply stopped the truck on the tracks at the crossing. Good luck hijacking a military transport, but stopping the train itself would have been easy by comparison.

- The truck driver then barrels up the tracks toward the oncoming train. This takes dedication and some strength just to ride the rail ties at that speed, let alone be on a suicide mission.

- The plan seems to be quite desperate in that there's no guarantee such a truck hit would automatically cause the train to derail given the ratios of mass between them. But, to me, it's a strong indicator that the driver knew a speeding head-on was the BEST chance to derail the train, and thus the only option. Such a freighter would likely have obliterated a parked truck on the tracks and barreled ahead delivering the goods.

- I'm no expert, but it seems likely that it's easier to derail a train on 'bare' tracks than at a paved intersection, where the pavement which surrounds the rail 'gap' might well hold the train wheels in the rut and prevent a derailment. If so, the driver was intent on hitting the train down the line instead of at the intersection for that reason. This desperate action again seems to speak of intent.

- In short, the collision seems to play out like an attack on the train and/or its contents: destruction with the intent to destroy and literally derail the train's mission. Kill the 'cargo' — hopefully but with no guarantee, but this wild act was the best impromptu plan for stopping the train and hopefully doing the max amount of damage intended.

Sure looks to me like an all-or-nothing act, though I wouldn't say it was a 'crazy' act, just a very desperate one. What prompts such a desperate sacrifice may be some indicator of what's bashing its way out of that freight car.

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The Barmaid wrote:

You know what...maybe this is where we went astray. Yes, there is an easy relevant similarity to be made between the art in the ad and astronaut Gordon Cooper...but if they'd used the actual man, they'd probably have needed permission to use his likeness, etc. so they don't get sued - especially if this is a fictionally created paper. If it's a legitimate print of an actual paper, and the rocketpop astronaut is actually THE GCooper, then sending anything to the address is ridiculous and moot...and sorely outdated. It could be they skirted it with a simple "Captain Coop Cooper" - and a nod to the astronaut but that's not actually who it represents...perhaps there is an IG character Captain Cooper that we could be looking up?

myself i believe the newspaper isnt real and cooper is “based” on real cooper and the address is next clue but this is all what i assume for myself

[The Barmaid]

You know what...maybe this is where we went astray.

Yes, there is an easy relevant similarity to be made between the art in the ad and astronaut Gordon Cooper...but if they'd used the actual man, they'd probably have needed permission to use his likeness, etc. so they don't get sued - especially if this is a fictionally created paper.

If it's a legitimate print of an actual paper, and the rocketpop astronaut is actually THE GCooper, then sending anything to the address is ridiculous and moot...and sorely outdated.

It could be they skirted it with a simple "Captain Coop Cooper" - and a nod to the astronaut but that's not actually who it represents...perhaps there is an IG character Captain Cooper that we could be looking up?

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The Barmaid wrote:

Yep Film, that's what's got me intrigued. Of all the newspapers in the world ever published, what's so special about this one? I do think the Kennedy speech is more relevant to this. Kennedy speech, full spread - test bans/nukes; hidden message someone's gone underground Poprockets & rocketman ad - astronaut recruitment ad, features link to real guy involved in UFO story Crosswalk - J. Smith, kids nearly getting run over Cabinet Planter - pest free indoor gardening with altered light For me, I think the driver wanted to intercept the train but possibly not necessarily to save any cargo...maybe the whole idea was destruction, only thing or thing in the box got loose. Too early, sure, but a crazy local wanting to stop the government wouldn't be out of the question - the precursor to the teabaggers. To the ones with the expertise on the scariest site, is there any command we could try to perhaps lead to the mystery sender him/herself? A way to get email? What about a generic thing - most of them have admin at domain? Webmaster? Something? What about locations? Or phone numbers. No clues from WHOIS? WE got Albert Pike and a few other leads from WHOIS on the Cloverfield game. We're familiar with Abrams enough to know he didn't toss out some little useless thing that leads nowhere. Spielberg either. I just think with their M.O., they gave us another way "in" - not just relying on the ad, which could be a herring. Why not make contact with Coop himself? He's been mentioned in this paper - that's either a real paper or fabricated one. Maybe he's been brought on board as a legit character? ETA: nevermind, didn't know he was dead...mybad

yea hes well known to ufologists he died in 2007 i believe....

[The Barmaid]

Yep Film, that's what's got me intrigued. Of all the newspapers in the world ever published, what's so special about this one? I do think the Kennedy speech is more relevant to this.

Kennedy speech, full spread - test bans/nukes; hidden message someone's gone underground

Poprockets & rocketman ad - astronaut recruitment ad, features link to real guy involved in UFO story

Crosswalk - J. Smith, kids nearly getting run over

Cabinet Planter - pest free indoor gardening with altered light


For me, I think the driver wanted to intercept the train but possibly not necessarily to save any cargo...maybe the whole idea was destruction, only thing or thing in the box got loose. Too early, sure, but a crazy local wanting to stop the government wouldn't be out of the question - the precursor to the teabaggers.

To the ones with the expertise on the scariest site, is there any command we could try to perhaps lead to the mystery sender him/herself? A way to get email?

What about a generic thing - most of them have admin at domain? Webmaster? Something? What about locations? Or phone numbers.

No clues from WHOIS? WE got Albert Pike and a few other leads from WHOIS on the Cloverfield game.



We're familiar with Abrams enough to know he didn't toss out some little useless thing that leads nowhere. Spielberg either. I just think with their M.O., they gave us another way "in" - not just relying on the ad, which could be a herring.

Why not make contact with Coop himself? He's been mentioned in this paper - that's either a real paper or fabricated one. Maybe he's been brought on board as a legit character?

ETA: nevermind, didn't know he was dead...mybad

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FilmEdge wrote:

Adding a wild idea: does anyone else think the deliberate inclusion of the Kennedy speech article in the newspaper about the nuclear test ban treaty might point to something involving nuclear test fallout/mutation in the 'creature'? It's certainly an old school sci-fi concept and we know Abrams isn't exactly against such genre tributes. Nevada is literally ground zero for nuke tests in the '50s and '60s, no stretch at all to have Area 51 and nuke test grounds linked. Why pick that particular news clipping for the coded message, especially if it wasn't a "current" daily news story in the supposed 1979 timeframe? Perhaps the coder had been studying and compiling nuclear test history/data for some "project", and in a pre-internet era would have indeed collected newspaper hardcopies for their files? Embedding the message in that particular story may itself be a clue to us, and a telling context to whomever was supposed to read it without being obviously literal. The medium is also the message, as it were. Admittedly a long shot, but food for thought.

i could see some that

[FilmEdge]

Adding a wild idea: does anyone else think the deliberate inclusion of the Kennedy speech article in the newspaper about the nuclear test ban treaty might point to something involving nuclear test fallout/mutation in the 'creature'?

It's certainly an old school sci-fi concept and we know Abrams isn't exactly against such genre tributes. Nevada is literally ground zero for nuke tests in the '50s and '60s, no stretch at all to have Area 51 and nuke test grounds linked.

Why pick that particular news clipping for the coded message, especially if it wasn't a "current" daily news story in the supposed 1979 timeframe? Perhaps the coder had been studying and compiling nuclear test history/data for some "project", and in a pre-internet era would have indeed collected newspaper hardcopies for their files? Embedding the message in that particular story may itself be a clue to us, and a telling context to whomever was supposed to read it without being obviously literal. The medium is also the message, as it were.

Admittedly a long shot, but food for thought.

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we do know where the train was going? WP