Really, shouldn't the easiest way to find him be to send a mail to, say, the five friends you think are most likely to know Satoshi and have them pass them on to five friends that THEY think are most likely to know Satoshi, and so forth? As far as I know, this is already being done, so, in theory, isn't the answer supposed to reveal itself eventually?
Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 4:17 pm
echidna
In response to Afgncaap5 - I wouldn't read too much into there not being a puzzle author on the card. Quite a few cards don't have the name of the puzzle architect on - #239 Persian, #238 Riemann, #237 Roaming Identity, #234 Mosaically Challenged, #233 The Earth's Destiny, #209 Little Pigley Farm, #207 Huey Teocalli, #205 Whipsmart Hot Fudge, #204 Script, #203 Ecliptic, #202 Mother Tongue and #201 Smoke and Mirrors for example - and that's just the blacks and silvers!
When a guest puzzle architect submits a puzzle to Mind Candy they are given the option of having their name on the card. There are probably lots of reasons why people choose not to put their names on their cards but in this instance I would guess that the author didn't want to be inundated with requests/bribes/demands/etc to know who or where Satoshi is. If the guest puzzle architect has chosen not to put their name on the card then Mind Candy are kind of honour-bound not to release this information despite requests from other players.
Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 10:10 am
Si
I doubt that Satoshi is CT, I think we're forgetting that this is a game, the cube was buried (I think) before the game started, CT, as the text says, lives or came from Perplex City which we know doesn't exist IRL, so cannot be a real person.
The thing that got my attention thinking about it is why Satoshi is expecting us (apart from knowing he is on a card that millions of people have seen). Going back to the six degrees of separation idea, I wonder if this experiment is Satoshi's own project and he is expecting us to see how long it takes us to find a random person in the world, may be as part of a study or something.
I started looking up Satoshi's with something to do with anthropology but didn't get very far, anyone else got any ideas?
Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 9:53 am
Tornan Steel
I suppose there is a chance that Satoshi may be Combed Thunderclap.... might be an interesting twist
Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 4:30 am
Afgncaap5
When all hope is lost, it's time for crazy-spec.
Has anyone tried five cow-Sorry, sorry, sorry...
The other thing we know is that there isn't an author on the card. I noticed a card without an author the other day, but I couldn't remember what card it is (assuming, of course, that I wasn't just missing it when it was plainly there.)
If MC is actively against letting us know who wrote the card, perhaps there's something that we're meant to infer from the lack of a name on the card. The word "Earthy" does seem strange.
Possible reasons for not telling us the name:
-The name of the card author would make the puzzle too easy. Perhaps the card's solution relates to the author of the card. Perhaps the puzzle scribe who created the card is related to Satoshi in some way. Perhaps this card is a guest-scribe, and Satoshi *is* the guest artist (which would mean that he's one of the many, many players.)
-They don't know for some reason. Possibly they forgot who printed the card and are unable of retrieving the information.
-The puzzle scribes may fear Satoshi for some reason, and as such don't want Satoshi to be able to track down the one who pointed us in his direction. Seems unlikely, unless Satoshi is allied with The Third Power or V or someone along those lines.
-What if the Puzzle Scribe is also wanted and searched for, and doesn't want MC to accidentally reveal anything about his or her location? A fugitive of some sort, or a celebrity?
Any other possible reasons?
Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 9:11 pm
Si
Ok guys this silver needs cracking but it doesn't seem like we're getting anywhere so lets look at what we know for sure ;
1 The guys name is Satoshi
2 The picture was taken in Kaysersberg
3 Time of year is Autumn / Winter or early Spring
4 Satoshi is (more than likely) of Japanese descent
5 We have to find him to complete the card
What we don't know :
1 What Satoshi's surname is
2 What Satoshi was doing in Kaysersberg (and just as a gut feeling, I doubt he was there studying as he looks to me to be around 30ish which means he would more than likely not have attended university there, this leads me to believe he was there either on a work based project or simply on holiday, a day trip etc.
3 What year the picture was taken
4 What nationality Satoshi is, he may be British, French, Japanese etc. just because he has a Japanese name gives no clue to his nationality (i.e. on his passport).
5 What do we do if we do find him? Just say "Hi Satoshi, you are on card number 256 as you know, so how's it going? Oh, by the way . . do you have an even more obscure puzzle for us to solve now or do you have a question like "What is my favourite chocolate" for us to get the points?
6 How he is linked to Perplexcity and Mind Candy. Obviously he has some connection for them to use his picture and for him to be expecting us, it is not just a picture of some random person, is there any way we could trace a link from him to anyone in MC?
All the work that has been done already is fantastic, I just wonder if reaching anyone in Kaysersberg is going to help especially as he may have only been there for a day, and as we don't know when or where he stayed, even if someone who lives there gets in touch, will they remember one face from the thousands who pass through. As also pointed out, MC didn't expect us to figure out the place, so I don't see how getting in touch with someone there will help as it seems MC don't think that will help.
I know there are more questions than answers still and this post seems negative, but I'm just trying to recap for people who may be put off by the 30 odd pages already here and hopefully inspire someone to come up with a new idea. The fact is, what do we know now that we didn't know months ago apart from where the photo was taken? Nothing much, so surely we're missing something apart from emailing everyone in the Wold lol.
Feels depressed at not being clever enough to help more
Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 4:57 pm
jaikaiman
I guess thats why they called it Billion To One
Although, I do think you are right Si.
Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 2:06 pm
Si
Just a quick thought, as Sophiecat pointed out, the place in the picture (Kaysersberg) appears to be irrelevant to the puzzle which made me think of something, if it is not a clue, surely Satoshi did not go there JUST to be photographed for the purposes of this game, this means the picture could have been taken at any time during the Autumn/Winter of any year.
Why go to such an obscure place to be photographed if it was a clue, surely if the place was a clue it would be somewhere nearer to where Satoshi actually is? I think this is important as MC did not think the place would be identified and therefore not going to help us find him.
Of course this is all speculation, but as we have no idea when the picture was taken as the surroundings have probably not changed for many years, this picture could be anything up to 5 or 10 years old.
There is no reason to assume that Satoshi was there for anything other than a holiday, although he may well have been, and the picture may have just been picked at random. If the picture is a few years old, it may be difficult to find Satoshi by looking at random pictures on the internet, he will no doubt have changed, as neither his appearance or clothes hint at the age of the picture.
I know this is not very helpful, but how are we supposed to find someone when we don't know how old he is, what his full name is, what he looks like now or where in the world he could be?
Feels frustrated
Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 4:50 am
Cabbage
Sophiecat wrote:
I think the fact that Guy says about Satoshi
ixalon wrote:
He'll be expecting you...
Guy Parsons & The Mind Candy Team xxx
sort of rules out him being dead.
Unless Satoshi is the Undead. So we dig him up and then run.
Ok sorry I am in the realms of fantasy again...
Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 1:57 pm
[PCGF]Jay
Hey, sorry about not having an answer form my uncle, apparently he's taking a holiday in Switzerland and won;t be back until next week at the earliest
x|
I'll try again when he comes back and see if he knows anything
Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 1:18 pm
Sophiecat
Si wrote:
Maybe earthy means Satoshi is deceased and underground, maybe they have attached something onto his grave? Who knows ????
Just a thought
I think the fact that Guy says about Satoshi
ixalon wrote:
He'll be expecting you...
Guy Parsons & The Mind Candy Team xxx
sort of rules out him being dead.
I also think Catherwood made an important point above
ixalon wrote:
we're particularly impressed that you managed to identify Kayersberg, too. Awesomeness...
this certainly seems to imply that Kaysersberg isn't important to the solution.
Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 1:07 pm
Si
I forgot to mention, the other thing about this card and the main difference between this and all of the other cards is that this is the only card that is controllable, i.e. we cannot solve this until MC want us to, Satoshi can remain anonymous until such a time he needs to be found for the purposes of the game, then and only then will we find him.
He may be sitting here, watching this and laughing because he could be so close we can reach him . . . but not until the time is right !
Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 12:38 pm
Si
No I did it like that, it just seemed a strange comment and out of context except if it was a clue.
I didn't mean to imply grave robbing, the email just said if you can find him all will be revealed, maybe there is something written somewhere on the gravestone.
I know its a long shot and I really hope Satoshi is alive but I guess all possibilities need to be considered. I think it would be in bad taste to ask us to search for someone who has died, but who knows ??
I hope he gets discovered soon, I just thought though, what if someone does know where he is from all the progress thats been made and the six degrees of separation approach, but they won't tell anyone until MC decide that the time is right??
Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 12:01 pm
Cabbage
Holy Guacamole!
Graverobbing is against the law, you know.
Si, did you do the bold and capitalising and underlining, or was it like that in the email?
Cabbage
Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 11:19 am
Si
[quote="Shinji16"]Just emailed Mind Candy about the architect and got this response:
"Hi Brendan,
Thanks for your query. Due to the mysterious and Earthy nature of this
card, we don't currently feel comfortable revealing the identity of the
puzzle scribe. All may become clear once you've tracked Satoshi down,
who can say?
I just wondered what they meant by Earthy? If it was related to earth, as in, Satoshi lives on earth shouldn't it say EARTHLY?
Maybe earthy means Satoshi is deceased and underground, maybe they have attached something onto his grave? Who knows ????