[Cinana]

From wiki search on Ohm's law.

"What is known today as Ohm's law was proposed by the physicist Georg Simon Ohm. In 1826 he gave a mathematical description of conduction in circuits based on Fourier's study of heat conduction..."

Lots of reading, clicking on extra links, etc.


Like I said: It's all in how you interpret the card. For some, they saw one thing, that I can not understand, and others can't see my reasoning.

I honestly believe the answer should have been Edwin Armstrong.

I kept seeing "resistors" I visualize them on a board, like a mother-board. They generate heat. etc etc.

/shrug

Perception is an odd thing.

[AngusA]

Cinana wrote:

ps. Notice how many other inventors out there have the exact same name as our guy? But just a change for surname, or even a small change for middle. It could/can be any one of those guys. Just depends on how you interpret the card and the clues.

It makes me wonder whether there is any significance to the answer. Why ask for the first name instead of the surname? Maybe the answers are used in a meta puzzle?

[almagest]

[quote="Cinana"]

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Fourier

was the first person I had come across that could actually fit parts of the clues on the card.

What parts does it fit?! [That aren't fitted better by Ohm or Kirchhoff, for example]

[almagest]

Agent Lex wrote:

almagest wrote: Or have I missed something? I haven't been following this thread very closely, since I don't have the card, but I reckon you might have gotten the wrong <spoiler>, and got it from a lucky guess. Unless anyone can show how the diagram actually translates into his story.

Yes, I got it from a lucky guess. Or rather, I didn't, because I tried the 1st name, which was rejected. Later, others' spoilers encouraged me to try again with the 3rd name.

But that is exactly my point. *Everyone* seems to have got this either by lucky (or systematic) guessing, or by using spoilers from others. No one seems to have got it any other way. So either it is a hopeless card, or we have all missed something! At the moment it certainly looks like the former.

[Cinana]

Spoiler (Rollover to View):

Fourier

was the first person I had come across that could actually fit parts of the clues on the card.

I really had my heart stuck on Edwin Armstrong because his inventions and story of his life fit every aspect of the card. Thus this is why I wrote a few pages back that the answer could not be a french person.

Personally, I am in favor of this card. Even if i don't agree with the answer being a first name (when indeed it was the 3rd). Even if you take into effect the other possible persons it could have been.

Ultimately we came up with the answer. One day, maybe Mind Candy will provide a short explanation to the reasoning behind this and a couple other cards that we are vague about understanding how WE came up with the answer.

So I vote for this card. I enjoyed it. it gave me the most enjoyment.

ps.
Notice how many other inventors out there have the exact same name as our guy? But just a change for surname, or even a small change for middle.
It could/can be any one of those guys. Just depends on how you interpret the card and the clues.

[rosemary]

I thought Mooch had it with his explanation of the resistor figures.

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Fourier

was listed in Wikipedia as being responsible for the discovery of

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the Greenhouse effect.

[Agent Lex]

almagest wrote:

Or have I missed something?

I haven't been following this thread very closely, since I don't have the card, but I reckon you might have gotten the wrong <spoiler>, and got it from a lucky guess. Unless anyone can show how the diagram actually translates into his story.

[rlp6028]

obrienk wrote:

ramsfan wrote: Spoiler (Rollover to View): Thanks.If only I hadn't tried Pierre Laplace as soon as I got home. Locked out for 17 hours, but at least I know the answer. Spoiler (Rollover to View): ooh, very close. laplace transform would have been my next hint here's the answer, so don't click unless you really want to know Spoiler (Rollover to View): http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Circuit_Theory/Fourier_Transform

*Sigh*

I thought it was him last Friday, but

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thought Joseph would be too easy of an answer as it is so common, so I tried Jean after variants of Ampere's names were no good.

I was then locked out and went to San Francisco for the live event and didn't try again...

[almagest]

Does anyone have anything to say in favour of this card? For goodness sake, the required answer is not even his first name (it is his third)!

The detailed circuit on the card appears to be a red herring. Instead, it is intended to indicate electric circuit theory in a vague kind of way. There are then at least a dozen, and arguably two dozen or more, better candidates. So you are supposed to keep guessing until you get the right answer. This is ludicrous (although no worse than 225 or 233).

Or have I missed something?

[AngusA]

I think the

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Circuit theory

angle is the more convincing one - hence all the different circuits on the card. A bit obscure and not one of my favourite cards but better than Broadside.

Now back to Shuffled.

[manleym]

Curlytek wrote:

Now that the answer is pretty obvious for all to see, can someone give a clue on how to decode the puzzle?

After looking back on this card here is a short list on what I think are the 3 key points on how to decode this puzzle:

1) Von's Clue of 'Resist Guessing' could be considered as what type of circuit we are supposed to be looking at.

2) Card Shows various circuits all with the Ohm symbol (Ω) which is the SI unit of electrical resistance.

3) Going on from the second a little looking up on Ohm's Law brought out this paragraph from the Wiki

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What is known today as Ohm's law was proposed by the physicist Georg Simon Ohm. In 1826 he gave a mathematical description of conduction in circuits based on Fourier's study of heat conduction.

That therefore led me to the answer.

[obrienk]

ramsfan wrote:

Spoiler (Rollover to View): Thanks.If only I hadn't tried Pierre Laplace as soon as I got home. Locked out for 17 hours, but at least I know the answer.

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ooh, very close. laplace transform would have been my next hint

here's the answer, so don't click unless you really want to know

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http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Circuit_Theory/Fourier_Transform

[Cinana]

Didn't have time to say it earlier...was heading to work.

I really want to thank those who I was PM'ing with. You guys are the greatest!
Hugs to everyone!

Cheers!

[ixalon]

Peter Blake wrote:

It seems like a badly designed puzzle to me if the diagram contributes nothing to the solution Can anyone explain?

Yeah, some of the incorrect guesses seem to be a better fit for the card than the correct one! The problem was there were so many ways to interpret the circuit diagram and no clue to when you were interpreting it the intended way.

I guess we're just missing something to do with the numbers.

[Peter Blake]

Soulsproximity1 wrote:

Yea what does it decode to?

I also don't understand how we got to this answer. If I'm following right...

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Von's clue "Resist Guessing" suggested a scientist and probability mathematician

...and from there everyone guessed appropriate names.

It seems like a badly designed puzzle to me if the diagram contributes nothing to the solution Can anyone explain?

Peter