How long is the key for this in characters? 8? Any chance that what was said above is correct (re: AMD chip). Could the key not be Longhorn? Was this card released about a similar time to the announcement of Windows Longhorn (now Windows Vista)?
Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 8:10 am
Demzon
I just started looking at all of this stuff a few days ago. I may be way off but I thought I might put in some information that my mind comes up with in regards to this card as everyone is working so hard at it.
George Boole died in 1864 december 8th. the person that came up with Boolean algebra and the idea for the AND, NOT, and OR operatiors in Boolean searches.
Here in the United States in 1864 the 13th amendment was added to the constitution. That was the amendment abolishing slavery and indentured servitude unless used as a punishment for a crime that had been prosicuded through the judicial system.
There are 5 cows imbeded in every AMD 80486DX4 chip. (viewable at http://www.molecularexpressions.com/creatures/pages/fivecows.html)
Also BASIC, and PL/I was introduced in 1964, and the first LAN was set up at Xerox Palo Alto. At Epson the first dot matrix printer is made for use with the Tokyo Olympics.
In the US military, TRANSIT came on line in 1964. Today we call it GPS.
My mind folows alot of strange tangents hopefully something in there is usefull in cracking this thing.
Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 4:46 pm
Seej
Rand0m wrote:
....force any survivors to listen to Barry Manilow records 24 hours a day until their brains turn to cream cheese.
So that's how they make cream cheese. I always wondered....
Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 11:30 am
Rand0m
xxfenrirxx wrote:
So I'm about to get trouted. Hoorah.
Put it this way - if the solution to the card turnes out have nothing to do with the encryption techniques that the distributed client is designed to pick away at, but to instead revolve around a cutesy bovine animation and a dollop of vanilla with chopped nuts, then a howling, baying mob will immediately burn down the Mind Candy offices and force any survivors to listen to Barry Manilow records 24 hours a day until their brains turn to cream cheese.
Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 7:28 am
xxfenrirxx
So I'm about to get trouted. Hoorah.
Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 6:28 am
Guin
xxfenrirxx wrote:
I was looking into perplex city and I've been following this thread in particular. I have a question, I did a search and didn't see anything. Has anyone mentioned that the cows on the card are quite similar in looks to those on the Whipsmart Ice ( http://www.whipsmartice.com ) website?
Guin calls all his penguin mates for the impending free fish fest
Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 6:25 am
xxfenrirxx
I was looking into perplex city and I've been following this thread in particular. I have a question, I did a search and didn't see anything. Has anyone mentioned that the cows on the card are quite similar in looks to those on the Whipsmart Ice ( http://www.whipsmartice.com ) website?
Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 6:22 am
Seej
arnezami wrote:
Seej wrote:
That depends. If MC calculated their figure based upon an assumption that we would check all possible keys then they're probably closer to the mark. However, Chimera and Guin have made the fairly reasonable assumption that of all the possible ASCII characters that the key could contain, it almost certainly contains exclusively alphanumeric ones, allowing us to skip lots and lots of possible keys.
Yes. But this (reasonable) assumption is largly based on the idea MC "wouldn't be that cruel". The card nor the hints so far give any indication which (specific) characters to exclude. In fact this quote from Michael Smith seems to be indicating how many different characters MC has used for the password. And it doesn't appear to be just alphanumerical.
I wonder if they expected many more computers/participants...
Let's hope not.....
arnezami wrote:
Seej wrote:
If we get to 100% and still haven't found an answer then we just go on to try all the other possibilities. Well, except for FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF as I can now exclusively reveal that it doesn't work
Hasn't going through the entire 256^8 search space already been deemed impractical?
Ummm, yes, which is why we're assuming the key's alphanumeric like I said above. Though as I said, we now only need to try ( 256^8 ) - 1 keys now
Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 10:17 am
nomadcelt
The Client
The Client that we are using to crack this thing?........
Sequential 64-bit codes thrown at encryption....decryption checked for known words?
I think I used a very similar program to break passwords on the ol' BBC Micro days (back them GREAT ol' days). Great to see brute force hasn't changed.
Is our code not an RC5-64? Are we looking at this way too logically and not enough 'outside of the box?'
Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 4:20 am
Jabba
so that machine would not be able to crack this code? just want to tie up the loose thread, so need to know what the 5 cows was refering to and if it was this book.
Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 12:39 am
FranG
Cracking DES
As best I recall, that book was about the purpose-built machine they used to crack DES. It had code to program an EPROM, etc. I can't see how the content could be relevant. I think some people tried page/word references early on.