[Daffy889]

I notice you have the piece with Violet's Apartment on it in your spare pieces.

We know that Violet lives on the Mobius Strip, and it looks to me like that piece fits below the piece with the "Lower Mobius" subway station on it, but with a bit of a gap (We may experience a lot of these gaps if the cards are trimmed to size after they are printed).

[Mima]

Latest versions of map and spare pieces are here: Quick reference thread

[am520dj]

The map is great, so detailed and pretty big.. makes you want to collect all the cards, but now that would cost way to much, unfortunately.

now if the PMs would - after the map is solved - release a posterlike copy of it... *hint*hint*

[Leeravitz]

I'm a particular fan of the great instructiveness of the very top card...

But it's very interesting to see more of the map...and there are intriguing things marked sometimes, like the location of Aiko's house. Now why would that be significant? Are we going to have start working out which exit routes the Cube thieves might have taken? Or who met whom in the appropriate region of the City?

[Flidget Jerome]

Here's the backs off the cards I got.

[Leeravitz]

Jut to reiterate the point clearly here: as of 8th June, 2005, we seem to have a Sentinel based implication that the city perimeter runs for about 120 miles. There is perhaps a question over what counts as 'inside' the perimeter and what 'outside'...but I'm guessing that, in this case, most of the City is considered to be within a boundary perimeter and forest etc. surrounds it. It's not like, say, ancient London, where the perimeter of the walls didn't necessarily incorporate the entirety of local dwellings - hence, the City (per se) and the inhabited area were *not* coterminous.

[NovacaineX]

Heres the 4 E3 card's map peices, undistored and color corrected.

EDIT: added 2 more cards

[tanner]

InspJJ wrote:

unless the city is built on a torus....

now thats a good idea

means you could have a flat map where the top and bottom join as do the left and right sides

[InspJJ]

unless the city is built on a torus....

[POTUS]

The attached pic . . . I thought it could fit in the space depicted in the lower left of the tour guide cover. It must be Polygon Park (on the cover) - so the piece I attached is either there, or (as you corrected me) a part of the Great Lawn and South of the river.

[Mima]

I couldn't see the river anywhere on the front page of the tour guide, and Key Square is def. north of the river, so I would totally agree.

At a guess I would say that Polygon Park is the open area at the bottom left of the Tour Guide (between Polygon North & Polygon South) on the subway map and north of the river. The Great Lawn is definitely south of the river as it is part of the Academy grounds (all refs place this south).

Not sure what you were suggesting with the piece you attached? Do you know what it is?

At first I thought we would be able to place sections just on colour, but if you look at the big area we have around Meadow Road/Lang stadium, almost all building types are there.

(Games Plaza is big just because we have the space!!)

[Leeravitz]

I see it all much more clearly now, thanks.

But you're quite right in regard to shorelines - the Underground Map seems to be pretty unambiguous about where the waters run in to meet the city - in fact, on shape alone, the line that the river takes beyond the centre of town looks pretty harbour/bay like altogether...

So, I would assume that the harbour is approximately where you've guessed it would be...

It might be the scale that remains in question (though we've discussed that already as well)...

[POTUS]

Superb Mima! There's evidence that the entire cover of the tour guide is Northof the Mazy river. I see a large open area in the bottom left of DogHead's pic. I think Polygon Park and the Great Lawn might be together since they are open areas . . . but the circular building sets seem similar too.

I can see the Games Plaze building being the same size and adjacent to those in the Alchemy Bay area as well.

Superb

[Mima]

I'll try to answer some of the questions!

1. The harbour is mentioned in the tour guide (2pm), and says that it is near Games Plaza. I have guessed that this is Portside docks.

2. Portside docks is from The Sentinel (More News in Brief, Arson Suspected in Deadly Fire). Putting it at the junction of the two differently angled shorelines is spec. I worked from the location of the river in the subway map, and the fact that most docks are located close to river mouths for efficient transport.

3. The shoreline is from the subway map where it is marked.

4. We have no way of knowing either the scale or if most of the locations are right. I have placed them as follows, but please let me know if I am wrong:

The Zeller Planetarium piece matches the road layout from the tour guide. We also know from the tour guide that this is north of Foreman Street. The pieces attached to this have been matched to road/building layout.
Ascendancy has been placed near the subway stop that bears its name. It couldn't be further south as it does not show the river.
The old town section was placed as a quick walk from Polygon South (tour guide), where Gatehouse 12 is the start of Academy tours. We know also that the Academy is North of Foreman Station and near Old Town (tour guide).
Key Square has been placed near the subway that bears its name.
Mobius Strip has been placed between the two Mobius subway stops.
Games Plaza - see above.
Alchemy Bay is mentioned as beach so I have put the name near the beach piece, which is angled the same as the shoreline.

At the moment I don't know where the other pieces fit, if anyone can match them, or guess at a position, I'll put them in.

[Leeravitz]

It's clear that Alchemy Beach fronts a stretch of water, and this seems to run all the way down the coast to The Strip, which juts out into the water.

But I guess it does seem a little questionable as to how such a relatively meagre looking stretch could incorporate both a pristine beach and an extensive harbour (which presumably flows back into the sea).

On the other hand, if the placing of the 'Portside Docks' is accurate, then it sounds like the Harbour would belong to this region of the map.

It does appear (from what we've got) that the rest of the City is fairly built up, and it would seem that the sea coast is a clearly demarcated area to the south - east (although I suppose there might be other points of contact with the sea elsewhere).

The 'mystery', I guess, is whether anybody would choose to situate a harbour for docking and refitting defence subs anywhere near to a beach resort. It does sound a bit unusual. But it could be that our scale for the map is a bit out, and the distance between the two is greater than it might at first seem. It might also be that, if Perplex City is an unusually peaceable place, they think less of testing military vessels near to civilian resorts than, say, the US Navy would ???