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ColdButt
Re: RE: Episode 6 Analysis

merelyviral wrote:
This is one of the many examples of how this puzzle is so well put together: by themselves, a lot of things in the videos make no sense, but, if you're standing in the right spot (or walking down the right street, or taking the right subway line), it all clicks perfectly.


Yip, just like the lamposts in episode 1. Tom's numbers are quite meaningless by themselves, but when you walk the path, you see the numbers!

PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:08 am
captain12fingers
Re: RE: Episode 6 Analysis

sickshotbri wrote:
merelyviral wrote:

I'm not using the snake as a clue at all! What I'm saying is, that there are enough clues in the audio to point you along the correct trail, even if you completely ignore the snake drawing. But, it turns out that, if you follow that trail, you will actually pass by that snake!

This is one of the many examples of how this puzzle is so well put together: by themselves, a lot of things in the videos make no sense, but, if you're standing in the right spot (or walking down the right street, or taking the right subway line), it all clicks perfectly.

Don't assume that they had to use difficult encodings to make this puzzle difficult... the best "difficult" puzzles have really easy solutions, it's just that you weren't looking at them the right way (or weren't focusing on the right parts). The solution to this hunt is clean and simple, I am sure of it, no big leaps in lateral thinking are required. Again, look back to the first few episodes, the path is spelled out rather plainly, it doesn't get much harder than that.


Are there monkey bars at the playground where the snake is? Or is that a stretch? Not sure if it matters either way - just thinking out loud here.


Not sure have to check again. Monkey is also used as a slang for children. Parents say 'Come here you little monkey' because they are all over the place.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:55 am
sickshotbri
Re: RE: Episode 6 Analysis

merelyviral wrote:

I'm not using the snake as a clue at all! What I'm saying is, that there are enough clues in the audio to point you along the correct trail, even if you completely ignore the snake drawing. But, it turns out that, if you follow that trail, you will actually pass by that snake!

This is one of the many examples of how this puzzle is so well put together: by themselves, a lot of things in the videos make no sense, but, if you're standing in the right spot (or walking down the right street, or taking the right subway line), it all clicks perfectly.

Don't assume that they had to use difficult encodings to make this puzzle difficult... the best "difficult" puzzles have really easy solutions, it's just that you weren't looking at them the right way (or weren't focusing on the right parts). The solution to this hunt is clean and simple, I am sure of it, no big leaps in lateral thinking are required. Again, look back to the first few episodes, the path is spelled out rather plainly, it doesn't get much harder than that.


Are there monkey bars at the playground where the snake is? Or is that a stretch? Not sure if it matters either way - just thinking out loud here.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 1:37 am
merelyviral
Re: RE: Episode 6 Analysis

captain12fingers wrote:
merelyviral wrote:
captain12fingers wrote:
merelyviral wrote:
mlssry wrote:

IMO these clues are being over analyzed.....they should work simply like they show us in ep 1.

I'd also like to add that the snake on my path is cut into pieces where it is Smile


For instance, the snake is actually never mentioned, but if you are following the verbal clues correctly, you will see that exact, cut-up diamondback snake on your path (as I have seen, as well as missry and others)


After re-doing research the past week I think the snake is NOT a visual play on a road, store, or a subway line.


no, it is not a visual play, there is ACTUALLY a snake in NYC that looks exactly like that drawing, and you will see it if you actually physically follow the correct path (either by foot or via Google Maps)


Oh,you mean the one in the park in BK? Duh!. I've looked at so many damn parks and so much at New York under the google microscope so long ago that I forgot about that! LOL!

But, I still don't think that is what is supposed to be done with the snake. Reason why because if you take the visuals on Broadway in the Time Square area then there is so much that could be used there as both visuals and play on words. Oh I love the black hearted oozing bugger play on words and the visual on Mulligan's sandwich.


I'm not using the snake as a clue at all! What I'm saying is, that there are enough clues in the audio to point you along the correct trail, even if you completely ignore the snake drawing. But, it turns out that, if you follow that trail, you will actually pass by that snake!

This is one of the many examples of how this puzzle is so well put together: by themselves, a lot of things in the videos make no sense, but, if you're standing in the right spot (or walking down the right street, or taking the right subway line), it all clicks perfectly.

Don't assume that they had to use difficult encodings to make this puzzle difficult... the best "difficult" puzzles have really easy solutions, it's just that you weren't looking at them the right way (or weren't focusing on the right parts). The solution to this hunt is clean and simple, I am sure of it, no big leaps in lateral thinking are required. Again, look back to the first few episodes, the path is spelled out rather plainly, it doesn't get much harder than that.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:46 am
captain12fingers
Re: RE: Episode 6 Analysis

merelyviral wrote:
captain12fingers wrote:
merelyviral wrote:
mlssry wrote:

IMO these clues are being over analyzed.....they should work simply like they show us in ep 1.

I'd also like to add that the snake on my path is cut into pieces where it is Smile


For instance, the snake is actually never mentioned, but if you are following the verbal clues correctly, you will see that exact, cut-up diamondback snake on your path (as I have seen, as well as missry and others)


After re-doing research the past week I think the snake is NOT a visual play on a road, store, or a subway line.


no, it is not a visual play, there is ACTUALLY a snake in NYC that looks exactly like that drawing, and you will see it if you actually physically follow the correct path (either by foot or via Google Maps)


Oh,you mean the one in the park in BK? Duh!. I've looked at so many damn parks and so much at New York under the google microscope so long ago that I forgot about that! LOL!

But, I still don't think that is what is supposed to be done with the snake. Reason why because if you take the visuals on Broadway in the Time Square area then there is so much that could be used there as both visuals and play on words. Oh I love the black hearted oozing bugger play on words and the visual on Mulligan's sandwich.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 4:44 am
merelyviral
Re: RE: Episode 6 Analysis

captain12fingers wrote:
merelyviral wrote:
mlssry wrote:

IMO these clues are being over analyzed.....they should work simply like they show us in ep 1.

I'd also like to add that the snake on my path is cut into pieces where it is Smile


For instance, the snake is actually never mentioned, but if you are following the verbal clues correctly, you will see that exact, cut-up diamondback snake on your path (as I have seen, as well as missry and others)


After re-doing research the past week I think the snake is NOT a visual play on a road, store, or a subway line.


no, it is not a visual play, there is ACTUALLY a snake in NYC that looks exactly like that drawing, and you will see it if you actually physically follow the correct path (either by foot or via Google Maps)

PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 8:52 pm
captain12fingers
Re: RE: Episode 6 Analysis

Cots945 wrote:
Sorry for jumping into this without having the full background yet but does the giant monkey have any significance?

Specifically at the end of the episode he grabs Mulligan while he is yelling, "he thinks I'm a woman!!!". They then run off camera.

This seems to be a reference to King Kong? It is probably a stretch but King Kong did steal a woman and take her to the Empire State building...


You mean the gorilla or guerrilla?

PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 7:40 am
captain12fingers
Re: RE: Episode 6 Analysis

merelyviral wrote:
mlssry wrote:

IMO these clues are being over analyzed.....they should work simply like they show us in ep 1.

I'd also like to add that the snake on my path is cut into pieces where it is Smile


For instance, the snake is actually never mentioned, but if you are following the verbal clues correctly, you will see that exact, cut-up diamondback snake on your path (as I have seen, as well as missry and others)


After re-doing research the past week I think the snake is NOT a visual play on a road, store, or a subway line.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 5:10 pm
captain12fingers
I hope Not!

Just a thought: Does anyone think that Tom's black strips on his arms/legs/hand are any sort of letter or morse code?

PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:14 am
captain12fingers
Re: soldier panel

ccl28 wrote:
I'm skipping ahead to the soldier panel. Here it is:


The dual forts in the background have been mentioned. I also think the insignia on the cap of the bottom left soldier is important as well. As far as I can tell, the British Army didn't have this type of insignia. This looks more like the insignia for a captain in the US Army. It could mean that this soldier was an american spy. Some of the soldiers look very similar to one another as well. Perhaps this is in reference to famous brothers in the British Army. Perhaps the Howe Brothers.


Morse code again. Question is what is really dots and dashes on this page?
I'm thinking that the left soldier is more morse code. What does the wedding ring represent? Something to do with weddings or commitment? Some of soldiers have dots, some dashes on their sashes. The soldier upfront has a giant X on his chest. Do you think the ring is a dash or not? Twin-doubles? There are four quads? Two sets of two? Oh wait. Is the solider to the far right also a twin of the one up front? They look sort of similar?? So do we now double all of the dots and dashes? I meant triple?

PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 5:02 am
ccl28
soldier panel

I'm skipping ahead to the soldier panel. Here it is:



The dual forts in the background have been mentioned. I also think the insignia on the cap of the bottom left soldier is important as well. As far as I can tell, the British Army didn't have this type of insignia. This looks more like the insignia for a captain in the US Army. It could mean that this soldier was an american spy. Some of the soldiers look very similar to one another as well. Perhaps this is in reference to famous brothers in the British Army. Perhaps the Howe Brothers.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 7:45 pm
captain12fingers
ccl28 wrote:
I found something interesting yesterday. This might just be a coincidence. On the cover, Tom is doing a Crane Kick from the Karate Kid. On the second page, he has 5 fingers out on one hand and he is pointing with the other. There is a Crane Street in Queens. It's only one block long. On that street is 5 Pointz Aerosol Art Center.

I like this because:
- I've found other one block street references
- It's a small detour off a path that I have
- It's an art related hint. It's not a stretch that the artists may be familiar with the place.

I'd have to find surrounding clues before I become more confident with it, but I thought it was worth a mention.


Just want to say you are doing a great job!. Just so you know the puzzle does have major decoding in it. If all 8 videos were as easy as the first 2 (which by the way do also have decoding in them) People on here including myself would have found this treasure a long time ago. There is a reason we all haven't. So yes, there is major decoding. May not be a lot in all 8 but, there is.
Yes, I found Crane Street in Queens the other day. These are artist. Artist think and do outside the box. It is in our blood.
Tom is a visual kind a guy. He doesn't talk.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:22 am
ccl28
I found something interesting yesterday. This might just be a coincidence. On the cover, Tom is doing a Crane Kick from the Karate Kid. On the second page, he has 5 fingers out on one hand and he is pointing with the other. There is a Crane Street in Queens. It's only one block long. On that street is 5 Pointz Aerosol Art Center.

I like this because:
- I've found other one block street references
- It's a small detour off a path that I have
- It's an art related hint. It's not a stretch that the artists may be familiar with the place.

I'd have to find surrounding clues before I become more confident with it, but I thought it was worth a mention.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 7:38 am
MickFoleysSock
Captain - Punisher
Black Tom - Spiderman
Crothers - Wolverine ... more so Patch style Wolvie


Mulligan makes me think of Thor visually .. btwn the blonde hair, gimmicky hat, and muscles.

Not a ton of blonde super heroes ..expecially in Marvel. Captain America was revealed to be blonde when he was unmasked for whatever that's worth.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 12:06 am
merelyviral
Re: RE: Episode 6 Analysis

mlssry wrote:

IMO these clues are being over analyzed.....they should work simply like they show us in ep 1.

I'd also like to add that the snake on my path is cut into pieces where it is Smile


I agree 100%, everything should be straightforward if you are at the correct location. Go back to the 'feel' of the previous episodes: look in your general vicinity while considering the clues and everything all of a sudden makes sense. And keep in mind that sometimes there is a decoding involved, such as morse code in ep. 1, or translating Tom's japanese into lamppost numbers in ep. 2... look for these kinds of 'simple codes', not obscure comic book references

I also think that only the verbal clues are the necessary ones, they tell you where to go, while there are other clues that 'confirm' that you are on the right track. For instance, the snake is actually never mentioned, but if you are following the verbal clues correctly, you will see that exact, cut-up diamondback snake on your path (as I have seen, as well as missry and others)

PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 4:29 pm
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