[SoCalSteve]

anyone have a picture of sam going through the "BIG DOOR"?

[Christien]

I just came home from another screening of the movie and I'm not sure if this was mentioned or not, but I noticed something that could be a subtle nod to the ARG.

In the beginning of the scene at Sam's place in the shipping container there are 3 photos stuck on his fridge, and they are shots of him kickboxing. Now, it's not the same photo used from the site http://amazoncapoeira.com.br/quem_somos.htm but I'm pretty sure it's from the same photoshoot.

And seeing as his martial arts training was not mentioned at all in the film but was relevant in the game, I'll take it as a nod to Flynn Lives.

[madopal]

[thebruce]

Christien wrote:

Quote: The film cost $170 million to make, and has just grossed a bit over $171 million. Yay for profitability! Although I don't think ticket sales will cover the $290 million price tag, I do think it will end up in the black after all the DVD and merchandise money is counted.

Far from it. I'm sure they'll make much of $290m, after all the toys, collectibles, licensing, games and whatnot. And I think the DVD/BR will sell very well for home viewing. It kind of shot itself in the foot by advertising IMAX 3D so much in a controversial 3D market, instead of encouraging people to see it in 2D just as much, and it smacks to me like one of those movies people will eagerly, eagerly await the dvd release. At the very least for collecting as well.
They may very well market the hell out of the dvd release too tho

[Rogi Ocnorb]

It confuses me when people start talking about Encom's servers where this movie is concerned. While Kevin got caught in their machine in the original movie, He recreated the environment on his own hardware and got lost, again in Legacy. If Kevin's hardware were connected to anything more than the phone line needed to call the pager, we'd have Clu pulling the whole Colossus/WOPR/Jobe Smith thing in the real world.

[Christien]

Quote:

The film cost $170 million to make, and has just grossed a bit over $171 million. Yay for profitability!

Well, according to this article: http://www.soundonsight.org/%E2%80%98ispec%E2%80%99joseph-kosinski%E2%80%99s-commercial-that-helped-him-get-the-job-to-direct-%E2%80%98tron-legacy%E2%80%99/
$170 million was spent on the film and $120 million was spent on a 3 year marketing campaign. I'm guessing that includes the ARG.

Although I don't think ticket sales will cover the $290 million price tag, I do think it will end up in the black after all the DVD and merchandise money is counted.

Also, in the article is a link to Kosinski's commercial for iSpec that apparently helped him get the Tron job.

[blackfeathers]

thebruce wrote:

...or getting uber-analytical, why does the data card visibly pulse and audibly pulse? What size batteries does it take?

uber-analytically, i thought about using an smd led peering out of a pinhole found at the triangle portion of the tray. someone at rpf suggested using a cr1216 battery, which is thin enough and just the right diameter to fit right behind it. audible pulse might not be practically possible. a diy work in progress still in the research stage.

my necklace:


no clear pics to go by, hence repeated viewings. lol

[Euchre]

thebruce wrote:

...or getting uber-analytical, why does the data card visibly pulse and audibly pulse? What size batteries does it take?

Its the size and shape of a unicorn tear, because that's what it really is. Its power is infinite and so is its compactness.

[thebruce]

...or getting uber-analytical, why does the data card visibly pulse and audibly pulse? What size batteries does it take?

[Euchre]

thebruce wrote:

What is the 'light'?

Artistic interpretation?
The brilliance of Kevin's mind expressed in the digital world as he wills CLU back inside himself?
Or maybe my best answer...
Not worth fretting over?

The film cost $170 million to make, and has just grossed a bit over $171 million. Yay for profitability!

[thebruce]

If we're getting technical, we don't even know the nature of the 'data' the consists of Kevin's disc and/or 'programming' (as he'd appear in the system). Assuming memories, thoughts processes, essentially the genetic digital code that needs to be stored...

So I guess the question is... what was the nature of the process of creating Kevin's "likeness"? Why is "reintegration" the only way to beat CLU? What is the nature of the "reintegration" process? And what happens to the 'program' (user or not) data during the "integration" process?

In what form is the remaining data that comprised Kevin and Clu? (morphed? corrupted? erased?) Is Kevin's original digital-dna source code still available in some fashion? (reverse engineering the 'reintegration' result?)

What is the 'light'?

[emeraldbeacon]

Regarding the chip around Sam's neck, consider Moore's Law, which states (roughly) that the effective size and power of computers doubles every two years... a fact that has remained generally true since the mid sixties. Given that, a computer that was state of the art in 1989 would be roughly a THOUSAND times smaller in 2010. It's conceivable that the chip in question, which really is comparable to a thumb drive in terms of its size, could possibly contain the entirety of the server. In retrospect, could Sam afford NOT to copy everything? His dad could be anywhere, and probably wouldn't be a recognizable filename in the system (I doubt that he assigned a 'k_flynn.dat' file to store himself when he hopped into the system)... but Encom's servers could make short work of the data in that system, and possibly secure Kevin's data for eventual extraction.

[Vectoralpha]

blackfeathers wrote:

relevant to this thread but not in the immediate discussion: Spoiler (Rollover to View): i haven't seen this discussed anywhere but one potential for a future sequel they could address is that sam's necklace chip possibly still contains encom's os 12 master file copies, as well as whatever he downloaded from his father's server. some things they could do with this concept: they could use that as a plot device or component, having whatever is in that chip interacting with each other in some way. it could rebuild or integrate the grid and have the option of bringing back kevin flynn. after all, the original flynn code was the foundation of os 12. if the rumours of dillinger jr. are true, they could create an mcp 2.0 type character from the locked-down os as a security program in his likeness. integrating or injecting a new os 12 world with the grid from legacy could be a possibility, resulting in new designs and interactions. they can even use that video of marv the dog as a grid prank on the new mcp to parallel the real world event. just to cover bases as a fellow wordplayer reader: i know that some writers like to purposely avoid topics that have been speculated by fans for legal reasons. however, just speculating here as a fan and i won't sue disney or the writers if they touch on these seemingly extrapolated ideas. just saying it seems that these story elements are plausible.

Spoiler (Rollover to View):

lets not forget Rinzler/TRON lost his disc in the fight on the tower and then fell in to the Sea of Simulation and the last shot in the grid show was of the shore during the explosion and everything above the water was whipped out but the water was calm. I agree the left hints about Dillinger JR and that fact Sam had his dad disc when he went back might mean Kevin is on the sim card and that's why he has it around his neck. Flynn OS 12 was put on the net and Alan did download it when he showed everyone his Ipad. Oh side note I notice in the first TRON movie they used Apple IIe same ones they used in LOST

[blackfeathers]

relevant to this thread but not in the immediate discussion:

Spoiler (Rollover to View):

i haven't seen this discussed anywhere but one potential for a future sequel they could address is that sam's necklace chip possibly still contains encom's os 12 master file copies, as well as whatever he downloaded from his father's server. some things they could do with this concept: they could use that as a plot device or component, having whatever is in that chip interacting with each other in some way. it could rebuild or integrate the grid and have the option of bringing back kevin flynn. after all, the original flynn code was the foundation of os 12. if the rumours of dillinger jr. are true, they could create an mcp 2.0 type character from the locked-down os as a security program in his likeness. integrating or injecting a new os 12 world with the grid from legacy could be a possibility, resulting in new designs and interactions. they can even use that video of marv the dog as a grid prank on the new mcp to parallel the real world event. just to cover bases as a fellow wordplayer reader: i know that some writers like to purposely avoid topics that have been speculated by fans for legal reasons. however, just speculating here as a fan and i won't sue disney or the writers if they touch on these seemingly extrapolated ideas. just saying it seems that these story elements are plausible.

[Guest]

Vectoralpha wrote:

Euchre wrote: They're called baoding balls: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baoding_Balls Made famous by Captain Queeg and later Jareth, the Goblin King. I think he was using them to make the battle floors switch

that was my thoughts exactly.

Also, i think they are more than just baoding balls, they are black with a white ring and oranges lights inside.

On a side note, since we've located Flynns toys (thanks to blackfeathers), unless someone can locate CLU's toys, I'd like to see if we can make some. Anyone interested?