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rlp6028
Mine is like that too. I thought they were all like that, since the one shown on the card catalog appears to have the purplish tint to it also.

http://www.perplexcitycardcatalog.com/1/251/

PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 8:53 pm
mtdew
Misprint? Printing error?

Sorry if this is a bit off topic (Has nothing to do with a solve...or five cows for that matter). I recently got a copy of this card and was wondering if anyone else had seen anything similar. It looks like a printing error, the purplish background color has been printed over the entire card, including the silver border. It makes the border a shiny purple color instead of the normal silver. It is also difficult to see the pixel pattern. I was just curious if anyone else had seen something like this? It would be kind of neat if it was a one of a kind.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 6:04 pm
BrianEnigma
Re: Something to think about...

TheQuestion wrote:
Forgive if this has been covered before, I did a search and didn't find anything. Working for an ISP, something jumped out at me when I saw this card. The syntax (groups of two alphanumeric characters, 0-9 and A-F) is strikingly similar to a WEP (Wired Equivalent Privacy) key. Has anyone pursued this option at all? Granted, even if it is a key (or series of keys), it's useless without knowing what network it is to be applied to... but something to think about nonetheless.


It's actually strikingly similar to a great many things. That's the standard programmer/techie way of printing binary data as hex--each pair of characters is a byte.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 2:22 pm
TheQuestion
Something to think about...

Forgive if this has been covered before, I did a search and didn't find anything. Working for an ISP, something jumped out at me when I saw this card. The syntax (groups of two alphanumeric characters, 0-9 and A-F) is strikingly similar to a WEP (Wired Equivalent Privacy) key. Has anyone pursued this option at all? Granted, even if it is a key (or series of keys), it's useless without knowing what network it is to be applied to... but something to think about nonetheless.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 12:54 pm
angadeon
Boolean functions

I've just slogged through the whole 34 pages hoping for inspiration or something. meh.

But I did want to point out one thing. George Boole, considered the father of computational mathematics, died on December 8, 1864.
I know someone mentioned him before, but nothing else was said about it. I just wanted to make sure that it wasn't overlooked by those coder types that might get something from it.

<--- running the Labour13 program on all available work and home computers - all appropriate appendages crossed.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 3:25 pm
Macavity
Just on the off-chance that I might be able to get some ideas, I recently took out a one-year subscription to 2600: The Hacker Quarterly. Now, so far there've been no articles that have any bearing on 13th Labour, but I did try another channel.

Specificdally, I've sent out a few snail-mail and email letters to some of the people whose addresses I've found in 2600, giving them the rundown on AO13 and asking their advice.

Today, I received my first response (this came from a guy whose compliation CD I purchased a while back to use as mind fuel during late-night brainstorming sessions):


Doug 'DeThMeDiSn' Talley wrote:

I just wanted to let you know that I received your letter the other day and wanted to say thank you for the positive input. We are currently working on the next installment of Hack Music and hopefully we'll have it finished soon.

As for your question about the game, some of our best people are working on it for you. We've been doing some research on the game and are starting to formulate some ideas on how to solve the card at hand. It will give us a bit of a tensions breaker after the long hours that have been put in lately!

Lastly, we like your enthusiasm and would like to stay in touch with you. So, until we get the new site up and running for our club, we can communicate by other means than just snail mail. At the top, if you haven't noticed, is some extra information for you to use ti get in direct contact with us if you wish. I was going to encode it for you to break, but that card 251 is enough of a brain teaser for you at present!

Look forward to talking to you again soon, but I need to get back to it. Take care and be safe.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 12:38 pm
Sardo
lol

PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 5:12 pm
Diluted Dante
has anyone thought of trying 'FIVECOWS' as the key?



Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Yes I'm joking.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 10:54 pm
themandotcom
Also, RCCRYPT is a program used to encrypt/ decrypt the RC5 algorithim, which basically changes the plaintext in some way that is wayyyy too complicated to explain. So we are trying every possible key, so far to no avail. This is known as brute forcing! We know the key is 8 letters long, so we are guessing everyone.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 7:17 am
FranG
I'm probably not the best person to answer any of your questions, but I can't resist asking about elephant & bananana. Why those?

As to the code cracking, there's another thread for this card that's more oriented toward the combined assault. Look down the list and you should see it. Until the Wave 4 cards pushed everything down it was usually near the top.

Here's a link to the site for the client:
http://13thlabour.tk/

Join in. Just download the program and start it running. We're over 50% complete now.

Google rccrypt and you can read about the underlying program. There's also an online key tester and a compiled program, but I don't remember the addresses. They're somewhere in the other thread. None of these give much in the way of feedback.

They also have puzzles with card prizes on the Live Journal at the above link.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 1:35 am
mqpippin
I think I'm going into Labour!

QBKooky wrote:
Yeah, people have tried a whole bunch of cow-like combinations (as well as many others), but Mind Candy has pretty much said we're doing it the correct way - since they estimated it would take x many computers y many months, that implies it must be brute-forced in this manner, because if it were just a matter of guessing the key, someone would have gotten it by now. Razz


I've just spent at least 10 hours wading thru the posts here. Sadly, I'm more lost than when I started. Can you or ANYONE slap me in the right direction.

I'm trying to find out any of the following:

1) What is the algorythm/mathematical function/whatever that is defined as "rccrypt"? I know that it somehow involves substituting something somewhere for a certain number of times. My most perfect answer for this question would be in a way that I could sit down with paper and pencil and ENCODE something using my own key. Not that I'd really do that, but I would like it explained that technically. (My goal is to write something of my own to work this out - mostly for FUN). A link to something like this would be fine even, but please, not back to distributed.net.... *whimper*

2) I see many mentions of some group attempting "brute force" decoding. Where can I go to help? Where can I see their progress if they are sharing it? Is there some kind of "seti - boinc" type project? If so, I'd obviously ditch the idea of question #1 except as academic research....

3) Is there somewhere a COMPILED .exe that I can run on a Windows XP machine that shows me progress (keys tried, or every 100th decrypt display it, or SOMETHING other than it just finishing eventually? If not a compiled version, is there a post that you can shunt me back to that explains how to set up something on my XP machine? I also have access to a couple of Unix servers if there's a .ksh or a perl script

4) Has the key "elephant", "bananana" or "banacowphantbulb" been tried? Wink

PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 12:55 am
Purdy
First post

this is my first post so be kind if I open myself up for a trout-slapping..
Anyways my two pence worth; I was trying all sorts of combinations (lust opus etc.) and anything I could find relating to Hercules or a 13th task, but then it was revealed to me that his (wicked) step-mother Hera was a goddess most commonly associated with cattle and is often described as cow-faced etc (I know some people who fit that description) but there is a story in which a baby Hercules bit Hera as she was breast-feeding him and the resultant mess is what gave us the milky-way (there is also a story that takes place just after being released from the 12 tasks that involves a stolen cow and a King Eurythus and Eurythus gave me a SysEx file which is quite exciting as a) I'd not got that one before and b) I still don't know what it is lol) needless to say I have tried these in the ASCII convertor and to no avail, not any help I know but I wanted to contribute something (especially as the code thing is outta my league) I hope this is new information for people wether it's useful or not... well.
It is my first day, and I fear the rest of my life... Wink

oh and hello everyone!

PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 1:34 pm
QBKooky
Yeah, people have tried a whole bunch of cow-like combinations (as well as many others), but Mind Candy has pretty much said we're doing it the correct way - since they estimated it would take x many computers y many months, that implies it must be brute-forced in this manner, because if it were just a matter of guessing the key, someone would have gotten it by now. Razz

PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 1:43 pm
Teebor
I've dedicated two more machines to the mix (I will try and get more but no promises)

I don't have the card myself yet but so far I have been quite lucky with silvers (or should that be unlucky Evil or Very Mad )

Given the cows and their refence to dstributed.net has anyone considered a key like tucows? (bearing in mind I have only read about half this thread yet)

or the very obvious five cows?

Its just from the silvers I have done (and blacks) the answer is always easier than it appears, and is usually staring you in the face Sad

PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 6:10 am
Demzon
sorry, I was just posting what I found that I didn't notice as duplicated. Maby I blanked it out as it has been repeated so many times.

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