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| Sunny du Pree |
| Zeitgeist wrote: |
You are a terrorist, right?
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Yes , as an artist ninja, I attack unsuspecting surfaces around my home with different shades of paint. Generally I use a paint brush for my underhanded excapades but have been known to grab whatever is useful in my sphere of existance. Sometimes I attack businesses but the colors are much brighter and it is very lucrative for I get paid for my WMP. I have been known to do unsuspected paint-bys on my friends homes as well.
Yes I create random acts of beauty.
SHHHHH keep my secret safe will you?
(um I could enlist you...we could start a base of operations in europe if you are up for it?)
edit** sorry I forgot.... LELELELELELELELLELELELEELE!!!
 Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2003 1:41 pm
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| Simulacra |
You are a terrorist, right?
Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2003 8:12 am
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| Sunny du Pree |
Re: Trust and distrust
[quote="Magesteff"]
| Zeitgeist wrote: |
If a stranger painted the mailbox the nieghbor might call the police, but if I stand out there painting my own mailbox I may get odd looks but be left alone... |
Believe me my neighbors think I am strange already! Esp. when I painted not one but two graffiti rings to help out one of my co-conspirators (Thanks for the "Rush"guys and the help) they are still out there!!!(just like me)
lelelelellelelelelelellelelelele
Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2003 7:01 pm
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| MageSteff |
Re: Trust and distrust
| Zeitgeist wrote: |
What this world needs is more trust, not more guns.. |
/me shakes head, I should probably let this thread continue to die its natural death... but I have to add one thing, while the actions of September 11 may have increased awareness that we do not live in a perfect world there are other reasons to question the stranger on the doorstep. Those Jehovah's Witnesses knocking on the door may actually be a couple of thugs looking to do a home invasion as soon as you open the door. And it happens in any sized community.
However on this I have to firmly believe that the PM's being the intelligent people that they are to create these wonderful worlds for us to explore are also intelligent enough to ask players for cooperation with those items that might be taken wrong by the people next door.
If a stranger painted the mailbox the nieghbor might call the police, but if I stand out there painting my own mailbox I may get odd looks but be left alone...
Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2003 1:18 pm
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| vpisteve |
/me pulls out a gun a shoots zeitgeist.
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Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2003 9:48 am
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| Simulacra |
Trust and distrust
Well, I do not think you have stepped into reality - at least not the kind of reality I am (or want to be) familiar with. And the NRA existed far before 9/11.
What this world needs is more trust, not more guns.
There. I said it. Now hit me.
Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2003 8:49 am
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| Sunny du Pree |
| addlepated wrote: |
Sunny,
However here in Texas, where we're all armed and ready, I could just see an accident waiting to happen.
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Hey a fellow Texan...homeland of my birth..yes and I am familiar with Texans and their guns...(ok i left this wide open..oop did it again...)
Anyhoo I think that We Americans were exposed on 9/11 to what the rest world has to been "more used to" We have stepped into the world reality and yes we are more paranoid as such. In that regard we had been in a state of bliss untill that point. So now things are different and it is something that we have to adjust to.
So you see we do own guns and we do want to protect what is ours, but as was noted in history when the pioneers firstsettled this land many many more peeps were killed by accidents with their many guns,by themselve or by their neighbors, than killed by Indians(eep i have indian blood so dont get me started) as far as I can make out that is still happening, the accidents guys not the indians.
so for future pms to be sneaking around painting rings on players mailboxes might shorten their life spans considerably.
Dmax you should have a doctor look at that rash... are you SURE you didnt get degged?
Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2003 8:24 am
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| Simulacra |
Safety versus fiction
My point is not one of anti-americanism. (Even though the concept of safety seems to differ between the continents somehow.) Anyway, my point is about fiction and about life. What makes ARG and similar stuff interesting at all is because it enables me to experience things I dream of experiencing in real life.
However, I do not think that life has to be entirely safe. If I had to choose between "safe" and "interesting", I'd go for "interesting". ARG has the potential to make my life more interesting and possibly more unsafe. I have done a lot of stuff similar to what Lazarus did, just to give these experiences to other people as well. And of what I have seen of the consequences, it has all been good.
(And, no, people don't get shot in Sweden because they've sneaked around in strange places during the night.)
Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2003 7:39 am
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| dmax |
It seemed pretty obvious to me that
1) immortal beings weren't really using the internet to inform us of their existence and "need for secrecy"
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2) they weren't really flying around to parts of the US to leave graffiti.
If that were true, then what - in the real world - would account for this? It seemed even less likely that Dave was doing it, since he was coordinating the game from a home base, presumably.
So, it was simple: people were simply saying that it was happening. And posting fraudulent pictures to support their tale.
Which was totally cool in my book. I toyed with the idea of taking a picture of this peculiar circular rash that had broken out on my back...but thought that it might muss things up a little too much. 
Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2003 12:36 am
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| addlepated |
Sunny,
In all honesty I was a bit more scared for the PMs than for myself! I didn't imagine PMs flying all over the country to plant clues, but I felt it would be reasonable if there were a PM in a city where a couple of players were located that he or she might make the trip across town. However here in Texas, where we're all armed and ready, I could just see an accident waiting to happen.
Anyway, I'm not flustered about it... I thought it looked like fun! My hub gets the credit for wearing the tinfoil hat.
Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2003 11:48 pm
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| Sunny du Pree |
Graffiti Ring Leader
First of all I wanted to apologise for the consternation I caused all you peeps out there. (Dia that is conSTERNation not conSTIPation elelelellelele)
I confess I was the Graffiti Ring Leader.
One night I was thinking about a lovely visual that Sally (aka PHYLLIS, LOVE YA BABE!) had written about the sparks of light that the game pieces created ,who had them, where they were located and how it looked like a ring to her and how maybe we all needed to circle to the globe somehow...well one thought led to another and all of a sudden I *visualised the ring on my mailbox. I wanted to connect with the rings lelelele
The nightmares and dreams were real though, I tend to be a very visual person and CTW seeped in....
I asked about six peeps if they would like to play and have some fun and come to find out many had the idea already and was wondering how they were gonna go about it. SYNCHRONICITY
I just wanted to add more mystery and be creative at the same time.
THANKS AGAIN FOR PLAYING WITH ME!
SORRY DAVE FOR THE BACKLASH
My apologies to Addlepated and all for scaring them....
And I agree with Jamesi it has brought forth some really interesting topics
BTW the 307 design is really a great design and would make a lovely bracelet!
*NO PLAYERS WERE INJURED DURING THE EXECUTION OF THIS PRANK
this prank was not encouraged or paid for by Dave or the CTW foundation
Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2003 11:05 pm
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| jamesi |
Re: Ei Paranoia, I've got something for ya...
| Zeitgeist wrote: |
| Please tell me, what are you people so afraid of? |
Ladders. And Swedes. Well, not the Swedes with big honking hooters, they're alright.
All joking aside, I think the point of the original post (IMHO) was to point out that real life interaction, while entertaining to those playing the game, could be interpreted by others as something completely different. Hell, if my neighbor was part of some sort of fetish group and 23 circus clowns started playing Twister© in his backyard, I'd be freaking out about it. Lucky for them, I'm Canadian and a wimp -- ergo, no firearm nearby.
While Lazlo wanted this thread to die (and the issue about the specific event should wither away, as all has been revealed), I find the discussion interesting (as a grassroots-PM-in-training) to see where the 'thin line' might be as far as immersiveness goes.
Back to the joking: I'm telling you, if some 36DD blonde wanted to snuggle up to me, I wouldn't be scared at all. Unless I found her twig and berries. Then I can't account for my actions.
Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2003 8:54 pm
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| LazarusLong |
The conspiracy revealed
Well, now that the curtain has been raised, removed, and sent out for dry cleaning, I'll fess up.
As Dave noted in chat last night, neither he nor any of the BTS staff was involved planting any of the grafitti at any of our houses. Yes, there was a conspiracy involved, and if the ringleader chooses to identify him-or-herself, they can do so. But it was a grassroots conspiracy, designed to keep everyone on their toes, cause a bit of a WTF reaction from the other players, and generally blur the lines between the game and real life. While Dave admitted that he found the whole thing amusing, he was not involved, nor did not condone or sanction our actions in any way.
I refrained from posting until now because I wanted to see what direction this thread was going to take. I note that there are a lot of people getting paranoid over the idea that the PM's are going to come sneaking around their houses in the dead of night. That is an absurd idea, both from a logistical and a financial point of view, as well as placing people at substantial personal risk. As I noted in chat one evening after having been "marked" by the numbered ones, "I'll bet my .357 against their 307 any day".
So, let's end the spec right now. The PM and his merry crew did not go flying all around the country to leave grafitti ay my house, or at anyone elses home. I was not one of the BTS people in the game, who should be praised for the unbelievable jobs they did, this was just my little gift to the game. I'm sorry that it has caused so much concern among the players.
Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2003 7:48 pm
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| Ozy_y2k |
 Oh, please. Spare us your smirking, more-enlightened-than-thou Europeanisms. The reality of the situation, whether you in your little self-satisfied cocoon choose to acknowledge it or not, is that the world (not just the United States) IS an increasingly more dangerous and unpredictable place, and taking a moment to be concerned about the possible misinterpretations of the motives of actors around you is not paranoia, merely pragmatism. If I, as a good neighbor, saw some random individual engaging in what -- to a random passerby's eyes -- looked like wanton vandalism of property, I too would be concerned. Possibly concerned enough to at least report the activity to authorities. To assume otherwise (without being warned or having a reasonable suspicion in advance that the activity was harmless) is not laissez-faire, it's apathetic and socially irresponsible.
Also, even if a player chooses a specific immersion experience, that gives no assurances whatsoever about the comfort or privacy level of those who happen to be in the general vicinity of the game (i.e. neighbors) but who are not "playing". What was it that someone once said? "Your right to swing your fist ends where the bridge of my nose begins?"
That said, I too hope that the PMs in games like this have contingency plans in effect for "full-immersion" experiences, just in case. 
Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2003 12:33 pm
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| Simulacra |
Ei Paranoia, I've got something for ya...
Reading this discussion gets me really worried and really happy that I do not live in the US. I have been involved in real-life larping and ARG stuff in Sweden and never before encountered this kind of paranoid attitude. And believe me, there has been some pretty hardcore stuff going on. I really don't understand this immense fear shown by this husband and the neighbor.
Please tell me, what are you people so afraid of?
Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2003 11:10 am
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