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| Salkunh |
well alan gardiner is dead so i hope you aint going looking for him   Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 4:57 am |
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| Scott |
Actually i'm sticking with The Nile. But that's me. maybe it's cos i like salkunh. maybe it's cos it seems like the sort of thing a person could guess randomly and get right. or the other dozen reasons stated.
eh. Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 9:55 pm |
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| DogsHead |
Re: Master of secrets
...oh and Maidenhead, most are leaning toward the Alan Gardiner solve... Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 9:21 pm |
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| madindehead |
One other thing...where on earth does that take us now? Knowing that it means the river Nile...
Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 3:35 pm |
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| madindehead |
hi all. totally new to this whole thing. but loving it already. and well done for the puzzle
 i just think we all got to work together on this!Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 3:32 pm |
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| someone_elses_one |
sorry forgot to properly quote the rest of ur message
Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 12:05 pm |
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| someone_elses_one |
Make plants grow like a gardener? Gardener = Gardiner? Yet another play on words. Anyone up for a trip to oxford? Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 12:04 pm |
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| Seej |
Just to weigh in with my POV to support the Alan Gardiner solution:
Make plants grow like a gardener? Gardener = Gardiner? Personally I don't read Egyptian, ancient or otherwise (tch - I prefer Sanskrit  ) but this feels like the sort of punning answer to the riddle that ought to be right.Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 10:34 am |
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| Salkunh |
Re: Master of secrets
Thats because Master of Secrets was just one of a number of titles found in title strings. In biographical texts everyone wanted to make out they had a strong relationship with the King and Gods so if they were Master of the Secrets of the King then they obviously were trusted. In a way its suppose to make you believe the pack of lies which follow by reinforcing how they can be trusted. Probably find Master of the Secrets used throughout dynastic Egypt in non-royal stelae. Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 9:29 am |
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| someone_elses_one |
Master of secrets
Hey, new to this but working hard.
Leeravitz ur right about the master of secrets role in ancient Egypt. example given here http://www.tyndale.cam.ac.uk/Egypt/ptolemies/hpls/horemhotep_i.htm problem is, there are references to this role banded about the place with different names like horemhotep and pedubast, and these are just from the ptolomy dynasty. There is also a link between the article on the theatre in the sentinel and the term 'master of secrets'. Master of secrets was the name given at one time to a special effects expert. http://novaonline.nv.cc.va.us/eli/spd130et/director.htm Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 5:59 am |
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| Salkunh |
the only good thing Gardiners work can be used for is propping open doors and windows...or maybe keeping chiropractors in work coz its one huge mofo
Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 6:32 pm |
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| Leeravitz |
Yeah, I'm inclining towards the Alan Gardiner answer as well, for what it's worth. I'd point out that a complicated set of references is probably intended here. As far as I understand it, the titles of the cards thus far produced aren't random - some are pretty self explanatory (Whipsmart Wordsearch), others are coded hints about what's going on (Vexillogy - is that how you spell it? - is a pun on the study of flags and the 'vexing' quality of the task).
So, what is the 'Master of Secrets'? I believe it's a reference at one level to an actual (fairly obscure) title that was held in Ancient Egypt by certain officials - you actually have references in papyri and tomb inscriptions to the 'Master of Secrets'. But it's probably another pun as well. Gardiner, who was able to translate hieroglyphs so well, could be considered to be a man who had 'mastered' certain 'secrets' in order to do so. And this seems to become even more conclusive when you recognise that hieroglyphs were long thought of in Europe as containing secret knowledge before the Rosetta Stone was found. Indeed, the very name in Greek means 'priestly writing', and the linkage with the idea that the hieroglyphs harboured mysterious, occult messages is ancient (if generally incorrect). If the answer was something like 'the River Nile', this wouldn't fit nearly so well... So, then, the only question would remain: is a reference to Gardiner's work of any use to anyone?? Or was this card just another taster to whet our appetite for the main course? Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 3:04 pm |
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| GWing_02 |
I think the Alan Gardiner solution fits best. Personal opinion, having come in and read the entire exchange.
Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 2:11 pm |
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| napier |
sorry. as in the translation that mentions Oxford, rather than a translation from Oxford Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 7:05 am |
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| Salkunh |
well all the verbs that i didn't know I looked up in Faulkners dictionary which is nice and gives references to which texts you can find it in and they all seemed to come from various parts of Urk iv. Though I've never looked at that in any way, shape or form so I can't say for sure. I would have a look at it again now but I have a coptic exam in 2.5 hours and I'd rather not confuse myself
Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 5:47 am |
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