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[quote="Euchre"][quote="Rogi Ocnorb"]In the grand scheme of things the FL player-base is minuscule. Even if there are 10,000 people following the game at various levels of involvement, it pales to the (minimally) hundreds of thousands that'll see a spot on TV.[/quote] The point isn't the direct sale to those 10k people, its that those 10k people will get excited about Tron and [i]won't shut up[/i]. I know I'm on a bit of a Seth Godin kick of late, but the guy does understand the changes in modern marketing. People have become very good at ignoring TV ad blitzes, especially those that become repetitive. (On a side note, have you noticed how different each teaser/trailer for Tron Legacy has been so far?) As Godin likes to say, for a product to be remarkable, people have to make [i]remarks[/i] about it - they have to talk about it. I've told between a dozen and a score of people about the film and the ARG so far, and I'm not one of those people with a hundred casual friends I tell about everything. Imagine what a really socially talkative person in this game would do for distribution. So indeed, this game isn't to sell us Tron Legacy tickets in the end. Probably half of us would have bought them already. Its point is to get us to drive tenfold or more people into the theater, to buy merchandise, and become aware of their brand in general. What more we ourselves spend on Tron is just a bonus. Remember, if you want to pay Disney and 42E back for what they've given us, the best currency to pay them in is lip service.[/quote]
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Broklynite
Greystone wrote:
Broklynite
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As such, asking people not to limit their posts, but instead to place them in the appropriate thread is not unreasonable.
Then simply PM them and please don't be rude about it. You are being just as bad clogging the forum with these remarks in the open "DON'T POST HERE" leading to posts like this making me guilty in a way for just trying to defend the innocent under attack.
That is just the honorable Union Steward in me defending others.
Please, I'm not attacking anyone. I also agree that there is no need for people to be rude about this sort of thing. And it is true, we have all wasted a pag of space talking about this. All I am saying is that rather than a barrage, a quiet comment of "this doesn't belong here, but should go here" not only does no harm, but 1. helps people be aware of threads they might miss and 2. helps people that may be unclear about the purposes of specific threads.
Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 8:53 am
Greystone
Broklynite
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As such, asking people not to limit their posts, but instead to place them in the appropriate thread is not unreasonable.
Then simply PM them and please don't be rude about it. You are being just as bad clogging the forum with these remarks in the open "DON'T POST HERE" leading to posts like this making me guilty in a way for just trying to defend the innocent under attack.
That is just the honorable Union Steward in me defending others.
Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 8:01 am
Broklynite
Greystone wrote:
Shad0
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the irony of telling other people not to post their opinions and trying to justify it in the name of "freedom of speech
This is exactly what I am not saying.
What I am saying is, Some need to ease up on others and play nice. Name calling and telling others not to post items is wrong. You can not defend people attacking others. I am secure in that my statement is justified.
If I may offer my own opinion, I think that while freedom of speech is important, skipping new threads can also cause people to miss important information which should be posted elsewhere. As such, asking people not to limit their posts, but instead to place them in the appropriate thread is not unreasonable.
Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:52 pm
KingdomKeeper
Greystone wrote:
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I am REALLY curious, this tron video, where is it located in the ride? The only projection I can think of is in the speed tunnel and the speed tunnel's video is that of Zurg's ship flying around.
This video is after Zurg. It is actually at the very end of the ride where your car gets locked forward facing the half shell screen that you pass through the bottom and then exit the ride.
So you are talking about the room that you get to after the scene of the batteries on the left, and zurg in his ship about to take off on your right? and right after the room with the projection is where you have Zurg's ship broken apart, where your pic is taken, and then the exit of the right? If so...that big screen has a video of Zurg's ship flying around...not anything from Tron.
Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:25 pm
Greystone
Shad0
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the irony of telling other people not to post their opinions and trying to justify it in the name of "freedom of speech
This is exactly what I am not saying.
What I am saying is, Some need to ease up on others and play nice. Name calling and telling others not to post items is wrong. You can not defend people attacking others. I am secure in that my statement is justified.
Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 9:40 am
Shad0
Re: [OT] Tron and 42 Entertainments Future
Re: freedom of speech
Greystone wrote:
If you don't like the topic of a thread or the contents of a thread, instead of being a DINK and complaining about it. Just be like everyone else and SKIP THROUGH IT! Don't degrade others because that have something to say.
That is my pet peeve, others trying to remover others freedom of speech.
I trust you realize the irony of telling other people not to post their opinions, and trying to justify it in the name of "freedom of speech"...
Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 2:01 am
Greystone
KingdomKeeper
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I am REALLY curious, this tron video, where is it located in the ride? The only projection I can think of is in the speed tunnel and the speed tunnel's video is that of Zurg's ship flying around.
This video is after Zurg. It is actually at the very end of the ride where your car gets locked forward facing the half shell screen that you pass through the bottom and then exit the ride.
As far as being OT. Well I am just following the flow of the conversation in this thread instead of starting a new thread. Everyone has a pet peeve but all are different. If you don't like the topic of a thread or the contents of a thread, instead of being a DINK and complaining about it. Just be like everyone else and SKIP THROUGH IT! Don't degrade others because that have something to say.
That is my pet peeve, others trying to remover others freedom of speech.
Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 11:03 pm
KingdomKeeper
Greystone wrote:
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OU812 wrote:
Disney has had a Tron ride before, in a manner.
One of the Tomorrowland attractions (where Buzz Lightyear: Spaceranger Spin is now) had a variety of names - from If you had wings to Delta Dreamflight. All of it was about the wonder of passenger air travel. In the final iteration mentioned here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_Dreamflight
- Dreamflight - the room was 3-D projected with 'Computer generated imagery. It was the 25 seconds of Flynn being digitized and pulled onto the grid from the original film. They didn't treat it at all.
Having been on Buzz Lightyear just a few weeks ago, I can say that the TRON video is still there in the exact same place. It is the opening to the movie of being sucked into the computer on the way to the MPC and then the video restarts its loop. I doubt anything major like a ride will happen for Tron. Disney has a history of only doing something if it is sponsored by an outside company. They build with other peoples money and keep it long after that sponsor is thrown out. The Wonders of Life was built by Metlife. It has been used for conventions and events ever since with very little changed inside.
As far as the Adventurers club. I am sorry to say I know for a fact that the place was gutted this time last year. I worked there the last summer just before and through the end of P.I. I loved all of the hidden doors and passage ways for the employees in that place as well as the theme. BTW some of the actors from AC are now at Idol in the studios.
Kinda OT, but I am REALLY curious, this tron video, where is it located in the ride? The only projection I can think of is in the speed tunnel and the speed tunnel's video is that of Zurg's ship flying around.
Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 7:31 pm
FilmEdge
Greystone wrote:
As far as the Adventurers club. I am sorry to say I know for a fact that the place was gutted this time last year. I worked there the last summer just before and through the end of P.I. I loved all of the hidden doors and passage ways for the employees in that place as well as the theme. BTW some of the actors from AC are now at Idol in the studios.
We can rebuild it! Make it stronger, faster, better!
Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 12:14 pm
Greystone
Quote:
OU812 wrote:
Disney has had a Tron ride before, in a manner.
One of the Tomorrowland attractions (where Buzz Lightyear: Spaceranger Spin is now) had a variety of names - from If you had wings to Delta Dreamflight. All of it was about the wonder of passenger air travel. In the final iteration mentioned here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_Dreamflight
- Dreamflight - the room was 3-D projected with 'Computer generated imagery. It was the 25 seconds of Flynn being digitized and pulled onto the grid from the original film. They didn't treat it at all.
Having been on Buzz Lightyear just a few weeks ago, I can say that the TRON video is still there in the exact same place. It is the opening to the movie of being sucked into the computer on the way to the MPC and then the video restarts its loop. I doubt anything major like a ride will happen for Tron. Disney has a history of only doing something if it is sponsored by an outside company. They build with other peoples money and keep it long after that sponsor is thrown out. The Wonders of Life was built by Metlife. It has been used for conventions and events ever since with very little changed inside.
As far as the Adventurers club. I am sorry to say I know for a fact that the place was gutted this time last year. I worked there the last summer just before and through the end of P.I. I loved all of the hidden doors and passage ways for the employees in that place as well as the theme. BTW some of the actors from AC are now at Idol in the studios.
Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:49 am
mattw3
It's cool to see everyone so hopefull and with so many ideas but...
The first movie wasn't that successful and the next one isn't out yet. When has a movie based attraction been developed that wasn't based on a succesful franchise (other than the Disney classics, of course)? The best that we can hope for, at least for now, is an overlay (WDW Monorails) or the redressing of an existing property (DCA's Glow Fest & Studio 17). These are temporary to promote the movie. If we see the full trillogy and it's crazy successful, THEN we MIGHT see an actual attraction in one of the parks. Like I've said before though, even with success, I wouldn't be surprised if we end up seeing some kind of show (Tron themed, in the dark, martial arts/dance/stunt). Being somewhat biased, I'm hoping for somewhere in DLR but won't be holding my breath.
While I believe everything above is fact, I'm really just trying to participate in the discussion. This is one of the best parts of being a fan. Speculating on what could or should be done when you know that Disney is capable of just about anything.
Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 12:12 pm
dbalschi
http://celebrityhollywoodgossips.blogspot.com/2010/08/tron-legacy-dance-party-set-for-disney.html
Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 8:56 am
Coasterg
Re: Tron in Disney parks
Tron has been in Disney park
FilmEdge wrote:
Euchre wrote:
I've said it before, I'll say it again: Disney should rebrand DisneyQuest as Flynn's Arcade, and open one or two more. If they do an End of Line Club in California, they should also do one in Downtown Disney in Florida. After all, they killed the Adventurer's Club.
Well, we're still lobbying to get the AC back. Kungaloosh!
Meanwhile, the Starcade in DL Tomorrowland would be a good home for Flynn's Arcade — two stories even which would make the 'office level' a great view below the iconic sign.
Its a shame about the AC, loved that place. Hoping someone over there will come to their senses and get it reopened.
As for Flynn's - its supposed to be linked to their nighttime neon area in the Hollywood section of DCA. The old Millionaire building supposedly.
I'm hoping that Flynn's gets opened in the old Virgin Records space at Downtown Disney. Plenty of space in there, even with the remote controlled car place inside. One sad note, over time WDW has been selling off their old pinball and arcade games so restocking it won't be as easy as it would've been a few years ago.
Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 8:10 am
FilmEdge
Re: Tron in Disney parks
Tron has been in Disney park
Euchre wrote:
I've said it before, I'll say it again: Disney should rebrand DisneyQuest as Flynn's Arcade, and open one or two more. If they do an End of Line Club in California, they should also do one in Downtown Disney in Florida. After all, they killed the Adventurer's Club.
Well, we're still lobbying to get the AC back. Kungaloosh!
Meanwhile, the Starcade in DL Tomorrowland would be a good home for Flynn's Arcade — two stories even which would make the 'office level' a great view below the iconic sign.
Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 1:24 am
Euchre
Re: Tron in Disney parks
Tron has been in Disney park
OU812 wrote:
Disney has had a Tron ride before, in a manner.
One of the Tomorrowland attractions (where Buzz Lightyear: Spaceranger Spin is now) had a variety of names - from If you had wings to Delta Dreamflight. All of it was about the wonder of passenger air travel. In the final iteration mentioned here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_Dreamflight
- Dreamflight - the room was 3-D projected with 'Computer generated imagery. It was the 25 seconds of Flynn being digitized and pulled onto the grid from the original film. They didn't treat it at all.
That's exactly what I was speaking of, just couldn't remember for sure if that was the ride I'd seen it in. My nephew liked that ride when he was fairly young, and when I took him around the parks wherever he wanted to go he took 4-5 consecutive rides through. (I'd seen the parks enough, and on that visit we'd covered everything we wanted, so I told him I'd treat him to his whims for a day.)
As for 42E running this game...
Let's just say there's some pretty damning proof if it became critical to know. Just know that its good work, and they are known for such good work.
I've said it before, I'll say it again: Disney should rebrand DisneyQuest as Flynn's Arcade, and open one or two more. If they do an End of Line Club in California, they should also do one in Downtown Disney in Florida. After all, they killed the Adventurer's Club.
Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 11:55 pm
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