<_BrianC> both are true in this universe
<tipsila> why does it encounter a problem and need to close on reboots?
<_BrianC> but remember from Lovecraft
<_BrianC> the old ones aren't gods, just aliens
<_BrianC> and magic is just technology
<bunksteve> and fire bad.
<_BrianC> the two are always essentially interchangeable
* bunksteve cowers
<DavFlamerock> ugly aliens
<Six> ugly world ending aliens
<Mapmaker> Kona writes, "What did the players do that surprised you the most?"
<_BrianC> Tipsila: it is one of three things I wish I could fix with Lucky 5.
<Sam> ugly god-like aliens
<_BrianC> or that Don does
<_BrianC> when you folks chugged through it so quick
<_NickoD> At least our aliens are not allergic to water...*grumbles*
<_BrianC> he sent me a recompiled version the next day with the note, "Give them this one instead it will be tougher"
<_BrianC> at that point, he was still grappling with exactly what this ARG thing was
<_BrianC> he's used to killing old versions and releasing new ones!
<_BrianC> Lucky 5.1
<Sam> coming to Mac!
<tipsila> so I should download a newer version
<Mapmaker> was there anything else we did that surprised you?
<bunksteve> Please and thank yu.
<_BrianC> every day was a surprise, Map
<brooke> hmmm, there were a bunch of surprises
<_BrianC> in a good way, I mean
<bunksteve> and a gift, right?
<Sam> sneaking into GMD offices perhaps?
<DavFlamerock> that'd surprise them :p
<brooke> i think the biggest one, for me, was having BA abducted
<_BrianC> We had Obtusivity tagged with an RF transmitter at the airport
<_BrianC> he didn't even notice
<brooke> i totally did not see that coming
<brooke> oh! i loved it
<_BrianC> we liked the choice, sinyx
<_BrianC> we could have ignored it if we didn't
<Obtusitivity> yeah, you guys must've loved hanging out in Dr. Phillips hospital at 3:00am
<dante> sinyx is my hero
<sinyx> I couldn't think of an easier way to get her into the garage!
<Obtusitivity> watching me cry at the nurse about my leg.
<Mapmaker> ok, was there anything in particular that we did that made you laugh?
<_BrianC> well, first off ... props to the return of foily
<Mapmaker> (the tin-hatted emoticon on the boards)
<DavFlamerock> I'll be AFK for a while - dinner calls.
<tipsila> foily forever
<_BrianC> first time Howard logged in to whine about Marie's death, I saw that foily and had to log off.
<sidtheduck> or w00t!
<_BrianC> couldn't be faux sad after seeing foily and squinty foily
<sidtheduck> thanks to Biff for squinty foily!
<_BrianC> and you folks would make a good white hat hacker army
<tipsila> yeah, he posted in the spam thread
<_BrianC> and I kept pushing Brooke to get CLs flagged, but you folks could get anything flagged you wanted!
<_BrianC> the CLs went all pear shaped there at the end with real people trying to figure out what was going on
<brooke> i got 3 or 4 flagged
<bunksteve> We are teh collective smart.
<_NickoD> I definitely second Brian's comment...it was awesome to see once again the diversity of people and their unique talents.
<Sam> we are like CTU
<_BrianC> thank god we had Nicko and Wayne
<_BrianC> to give our geeky some mustard
<_BrianC> the spicy kind
<Mapmaker> so another question
<Mapmaker> ok, Rose's question: how did they deal with the way we misinterpreted what they gave us?
<cather> someday i'll wield my mad macrame skilz
<brooke> cried, repeatedly
<bunksteve> I can tie my shoes... that's my talent.
<_BrianC> on the CLs?
<dante> we never misinterpreted!
<_ScrappyDoo> there was a lot of whining ;D
<rose> no kidding.
<_BrianC> some ambiguity was certainly intended, though
<_ScrappyDoo> sometimes, tunafish is just tunafish. not a lovecraft metaphore
<rose> but it is an interesting question, I think we got off-track a good deal of the time
* sidtheduck tried not to whine too much and just make fancy web tools
<rose> and getting back on wasn't simple.
* jjason tried not to whine too much and just make groundless speculations
<_BrianC> Rose, I think that was one of the challenges of trying a Lovecraftian storyline
<brooke> i think you guys thought you were off track more than you really were or are
<_ScrappyDoo> i whined a lot i wasn't referring to you guys
<_BrianC> where you want all the pieces to kind of make sense only after it is too late to save yourself
<WolfHawk> I was just plain confused! lol
<rose> dude, I still don't know what happened.
<rose> or what the stuff in the dreamscape meant
<brooke> you have a much greater understanding for a lot of this stuff than you think you do because, like brian says, a lot of stuff clicks when it's too late
<sinyx> that actually sounds pretty lovecraftian LOL
<rose> the fountain, the wall, the coffee shop.
<_BrianC> you say that, Rose, but I saw your posts at YS.com
<rose> asking for help?
<_BrianC> and then breaking it all down for them
<_BrianC> like pointing out that the encrypted Lucky 5 bits were like being the gate and the key to the gate
<rose> I don't know what BA was doing exactly, and I don't know why she picked certain cities.
<rose> oh well brian - that was brilliant.
<bunksteve> Pissing us off, rose.
<bunksteve> Pissing us all off..
<rose> that made me really happy .
<_BrianC> sounds like good leads for the Sentry to pursue, Rose.
* dante throws tomatoes
<_NickoD> Do not disregard the knowledge you all gained.
<biff> so then one-shot CLs are dead nodes?
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<Mapmaker> ok, so cather's up neeeeeext
<rose> I don't have knowledge I have a bunch of random facts...
<_BrianC> Rose, I think some of your questions are about motivation
<_BrianC> which is certainly still murky and mysterious, especially for BA from the Sentry's perspective
<catherwood> hi, team, i snuck out for dinner, but i was wondering about the LARP communities, whether you got any nibbles, or were disappointment so few seemed to join in?
<_BrianC> but much of the dreams are in fact about what you're doing in the physical world
<_BrianC> so those things progress together, in a way
<brooke> and, thinking of motivation, this might help you guys with the craiglists (i dunno, this might also be a BA-esque answer)
<rose> well, I got that much figured out.
<_BrianC> I think that is part of what we were trying to communicate with the dog
<_NickoD> Little known fact: I actually do LARP
<brooke> try to put yourselves in BAs shoes. you know a bit about her
<_NickoD> so I was at GenCon pimping the game
<bunksteve> Dude... admitting that in an ARG chat is like admitting to doing Broadway musicals in gym class!
<Obtusitivity> yeah dude.
<Obtusitivity> lightning bolt.
<Obtusitivity> lightning bolt.
* Obtusitivity shakes his head
<catherwood> it just seemed from the Yahoo! list that they were all busy at live events this time of year
<_NickoD> shh...I got boots of escaping
<_BrianC> I love that video
<_BrianC> Cath, I think the two main packages we sent to LARPers
<_BrianC> were in part as a tip of the hat
<_BrianC> because we realized that, from their perspective, it could look like we're getting up in their house
<catherwood> nice, public relations there
<bunksteve> "Fuck the elves. Come play with some REAL monsters!"
<_BrianC> I think some of their stuff is really cool though
<_BrianC> I'm a sucker of a nice prop
<bunksteve> As seen by the altar.
<Obtusitivity> no matter how much i buy into the fiction, the day i fall under "larper" i'm going to pull a kevin.
<catherwood> i tried to tempt them back with photos of the storage room, but only the one guy came back
<Mapmaker> so back to BA
<Mapmaker> How many calls did BA get in a week? Any from people thinking she was real and not part of EE? Did they ever get any interesting 'non gamer' responses to the craigslists?
<_ScrappyDoo> BA was constantly solicited for evening activities
<Obtusitivity> yeah, sorry about that.
<bunksteve> That's what you get for putting her under "Erotic Services"
<bunksteve> lol, Obs
<_NickoD> Hence the finger.
<dante> now *that* would be something else to compile for Schmeldritch
<bunksteve> "This catty psychic is just dying to give you 'the finger'. Mrowr!"
<missphinx> I was just going to say that dante. laff riot
<Obtusitivity> wait, bseeingu? i was looking for b****ing you..
<Obtusitivity> my bad
<brooke> it varied by week
<_ScrappyDoo> there were a lot of other interesting things
<brooke> but there were hundreds of calls
<_BrianC> Jim in our office has been working on a little audio montage of calls
<_BrianC> we should post that this week
<bunksteve> oh no..
<dante> oh noes
<brooke> i know i have 500 or so in itunes
<Mapmaker> Were you impressed by the number of calls? The number of overseas calls?
<_BrianC> you can't dance to it, but I give it a 7.5
<Obtusitivity> will those include the marie voicemails?
<brooke> and i didn't save all of them
<sinyx> The poor soul who had to wade through them all...
<brooke> oooo the overseas calls
<brooke> i love accents
<_ScrappyDoo> oh yeah. who was accent man?
<biff> russian bride scams?
<_ScrappyDoo> i've still got him in itunes
<brooke> i could (and did) listen to james stones dreams a bunch
<_NickoD> I am the token ARGNet accent dude
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<bunksteve> Just wait until you hear my cockney accent, Nicko.
<brooke> and she got loads of great emails from random craigslisters
<bunksteve> Yer' gonna lose yer shite, mate!
<brooke> the one dream that sounded like a suicide note got a lot of interesting replies
<brooke> she got poems and songs
<WolfHawk> It would be nice to see some of thouse, too.
<bunksteve> Shitty emo poetry?
<brooke> some prose, some of it about as good as hers
<Mapmaker> ok, so a procedural question
<_BrianC> I often wonder who reads those sections
<_BrianC> of Craigslist
<Mapmaker> from Sam
<Obtusitivity> bored video game testers
<_BrianC> kind of sad and lonely sometimes
<Mapmaker> "How long were you developing the game before launch? How far ahead is the story arc planned?"
<_ScrappyDoo> i'm still getting responses from melon day
<bunksteve> You don't want to know, Brian.
<Obtusitivity> i can vouch.
<sinyx> BA must have hundreds of emo fanboys by now
<brooke> ha! melon day!
<_BrianC> well, we just re-registered the domain names
<brooke> if you guys go to the orlando missed connections, you'll see two posts about melons about 10 minutes apart
<_BrianC> so we were well in production planning before ARGfest
<_BrianC> I even handed out a few BA coins there
<_BrianC> like it was my schwag for Cruel 2 B Kind
<Sam> ohh, neat
<_BrianC> but, that's also where we picked up Nicko
<brooke> i had posted to CL HOURS before that and it didn't show up, so i had jackie and brian test it for me and suggest "i dunno, something about melons in a grocery store"
<_BrianC> so the full team was still fleshing out around the beginning of the year
<brooke> that's when i learned ba was banned from craigslist
<rose> can we make that a lifetime ban?
<_BrianC> and we've got about 2 years of plotline roughed out
<_NickoD> Brian hands me a coin with a cat and goes "I'll explain later".
<_BrianC> that doesn't fully mine everything
* dante hifives rose
* sidtheduck reconfigures the Dreamcatcher for "melons"
<_BrianC> yeah, don't expect CLs that heavily ever again
<_BrianC> but I did love the ephemeral nature of it
<_BrianC> that they would disappear
<_BrianC> at different rates even
<Mapmaker> so was the 2 year statement a hopeful minimum?
<WolfHawk> They certainly made for interesting reading.
<catherwood> i enjoyed posting the CLs to our OOG wiki -- for like the first 8 weeks of them :/
<_BrianC> hey, if we make this work, we can keep doing Eldritch until Cthulhu returns
<Mapmaker> ok, so from Noyb: Any puzzles/clues that we just completely ignored that you *can* tell us about now?
<biff> oog wiki was blocked at my work, thank G for the SO wiki
<DavFlamerock> OH SNAP
<_BrianC> none that I can think of, Map
<_BrianC> except some aspects of the MUD
<_BrianC> but nothing criticial certainly
<WolfHawk> That's because they kept disappearing on us!!
<_BrianC> I know
<Mapmaker> An adaptation from Dav: will we be seen puzzle-heavy parts in the future? More code everywhere?
<_BrianC> never vetted the servers for them!
<_BrianC> so question for all of you
<_BrianC> what parts did you enjoy the most?
<WolfHawk> It would be cool to have a permanent one - *missing my cave*
<catherwood> was that "more code" or "morse code"?
<DavFlamerock> Not the Lucky5/boil/coding thing
<Obtusitivity> can i get my joe montana and jerry rice fatheads back from kevin's mud please?
<_BrianC> there will be some tighter game rhythms in future episodes
<DavFlamerock> It's over my head
<bunksteve> That's about 90% of the game for me, Dav.
<catherwood> ooo ooo, i remember the first day my monitor spewed yoggie prayer at me -- i wasn't expecting it, so it was really creepy and *personal*
* biff enjoyed the plot spec interaction
<bunksteve> I like the character interactions the best..
<sidtheduck> that was a good day in chat tho! Talking with Map and j5
<bunksteve> always my favorite part of ARG's.
<DavFlamerock> well, no one gets everything
<_BrianC> so yeah, I'm not sure "puzzle heavy" is the right phrase, but some of that general direction
<bunksteve> And thanks for the "toilet boil" thing, Brian!
<jjason> I really liked reading the craigslists
<catherwood> better than a phone call, for me
<jjason> even if I didn't understand them
<Sam> I enjoyed the part were you discover Jeanine Salla
<bunksteve> It always makes me feel really good about myself to have my giant ass be the topic of discussion.
<bunksteve> Fuck Art.
<sinyx> Character stuff, I actually liked trying to figure out the crazy dream/CL symbolism
<WolfHawk> jk - Definitely the character interaction.
<bunksteve> I'm not still bitter about that, btw.
<dante> i would have liked the character interaction more except that (IMO) several of the characters were unlikeable
<_BrianC> we're enjoying it with you, seriously, however grumpy or nounless the character might be from moment to moment
<Obtusitivity> The community is my favorite part, definitely. it's a credit to you guys that you managed to knit us all together the way you have.
<missphinx> I was/am rather fond of Exu, bless his tea-stained heart
<WolfHawk> unlikeable = tension
<WolfHawk> from a story pov
<jjason> I also liked Exu a whole lot!
<sinyx> i thought that made them realistic, not everyone's a nice guy
<bunksteve> I thought Exu was a creep.
<Sam> group hug!
<Obtusitivity> im going to miss stu.
<sinyx> I hope Exu comes around again too!
<bunksteve> I got some bad ju-ju off of him.
* bunksteve boils
<WolfHawk> (wants my girls back >
<DavFlamerock> Yeah, the Character Interaction was the best. I liked Jen and Exu and Marie probably the best
<dante> art in particular... grrrr
<sidtheduck> yes . . . thank god for Biff!
<Mapmaker> Which character was the most fun to write?
<biff> you have to understand where art is coming from
<_BrianC> Dante, you'll get your revenge, I imagine.
<missphinx> I hope we can resuscitate Bryce
<catherwood> i miss photos, though, Tucker always had a few photos to show us during WiBS
<_BrianC> I got the creepies whenever I sent Chorazos documents for editing.
* missphinx nods at Nicko
<bunksteve> I enjoyed writing the part of "bunksteve". Oh sure he came off as a dumbass but... oh... wait... nevermind.
<_BrianC> Cath, that's something you're going to see more of
<_BrianC> the characters
<sidtheduck> yay! More Photoshop!
<dante> well thanks to EE I know now how to conjugate verbs in Arabic
<catherwood> sure, what's left of them
<Yog_Sothoth> I loved the character interaction too, very much so, just wish I could have gotten more of it, even if it was being told to close my cakehole. [/semilate]
<_NickoD> Nothing is impossible
<brooke> would you all kill me if i sad ba was my favorite to write?
<_BrianC> ask Exu to bring back a zombie Marie
<bunksteve> No we won't, Brooke.
<Yog_Sothoth> No way, brooke, ba was cool.
<missphinx> oh I can only PRAY that he will
<bunksteve> We can't reach you through the computer.
<biff> most creative outlet brooke
<catherwood> brooke can write BA in her sleep [/bad pun]
<WolfHawk> nope - I liked BAs dreaminess
<rose> I like Exu
<dante> BA was certainly the most...... wordy
<biff> I for one did not hate BA at all
<brooke> it was an amazingly fun challenge every CL
<rose> sorry guys I have to leave...bye
<biff> bye rise
<bunksteve> bye rose
<WolfHawk> bye rose
<biff> rose too
<_BrianC> sleep well Rose
<Sam> Bye Rose
<dante> bye rose!
<_ScrappyDoo> seeya rose
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<brooke> i'd get X dreams and have to find ways to work them in
<brooke> g'night rose
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<sidtheduck> I didn't get BA, but I didn't hate her
<Yog_Sothoth> night roDAMN
<missphinx> BA grew on you.
<sinyx> I feel bad for BA, she's cool.
<missphinx> on tenterhooks at the end waiting to find out if she'd tell us what happened
<Mapmaker> From cissimace
<dante> i do not in any way feel bad for BA
<catherwood> for logging purposes, can i ask when the official chat will end?
<WolfHawk> I thought it was interesting that you potrayed my blind dreamer with bloodied eyes.
<bunksteve> shhh, everybody.
<Sam> When we say CHEESE
<bunksteve> new question time.
<_BrianC> we can stop being useful now, Cath
<Mapmaker> there are actually almost no questions left
<Obtusitivity> thanks for watching my kids btw.
<Mapmaker> sort of related questions
* biff is still waiting for the cat clarification
<_BrianC> cat clarification?
<brooke> dude! i loved that you sent your kids in every week
<Mapmaker> Have they experianced any weird experiences during their day to day life, linked with the game? (For example, I seem to remember someone mentioning al lot of cats suddenly appearing, and personally whenever I see a cat now, I start to wonder xD )
<Sam> I have a question
<brooke> but i was sort of troubled by that, too
<bunksteve> I have a question.
<brooke> i mean why would you want your kids to be there?
<Sam> Steve has a question
<DavFlamerock> I have a finale
<Obtusitivity> then i win.
<biff> yes, what's up with those cats?
<Obtusitivity> because they immediately pull at the heart strings.
<catherwood> i'm still waiting for my cricket invasion
<Obtusitivity> er- cute.
<bunksteve> We'll wait, Sam.
<bunksteve> Take our turns.
<WolfHawk> * confused - kids??
* jjason is also confused
<biff> obt dreamed of his kids
* bunksteve is always confused.
<_ScrappyDoo> i discovered i share a birthday with lovecraft - I deemed myself safe from all eldritchy errors at that point
<brooke> obs had a theme going on with the dreams he sent in - he was always looking for his kids
<_BrianC> that's why the curse skipped you!
* _ScrappyDoo bows
<sinyx> You sent your kids to the dreamland?
<Obtusitivity> sorry, yeah. well. they're MY kids.
<biff> she passed on the tape
<Obtusitivity> i brought 'em in, and i can take 'em out.
<WolfHawk> Oh yeah - I remember (was picturing Obs kids visiting GMD offices)
* Obtusitivity distracted by niners game
<bunksteve> With your wife's permission.
<Mapmaker> OK, so I think Brian will like this question
<dante> the man on the corner. Obtusi's kids behind the fence.
* biff dreams obt kids to a foster home
<Mapmaker> and I think this is the last Official Question
<Sam> I love official questions
<Mapmaker> well, there are two
<_ScrappyDoo> maybe three
<Mapmaker> Penultimate: Why give Art an AIM if he was never on
<_BrianC> they are spreading
<bunksteve> seven or eight, tops
<_ScrappyDoo> that was another headthumper
<_BrianC> I inherited Art from Steve Grant, who left because of his father getting shot
<dante> but Art was on.. i saw him!
<biff> art was initially a spammer, they made him IG
<_BrianC> didn't notice he had tucked that into a profile screen
<_BrianC> and that IM address was already registered!
<missphinx> well maybe he will use it...some day
<Sam> he was on from 5 PM to 5:02 PM
<DavFlamerock> *hint hint*
* bunksteve gives the PM's the big ole' winky eye of hinty-hint
<_BrianC> I tried to get it
<_BrianC> in order to lay out the Art/Jen conflict
<brooke> heh, that was a fun morning
<_BrianC> had to settle for mere substitutes
<_ScrappyDoo> and then Jen came in with a magical new AIM name for Art
<brooke> "what do you mean it's already registered?!"
<_ScrappyDoo> "shhh! no one will notice!"
<_BrianC> "which one of you did this to me?!?!"
<sidtheduck> lookit there
<Sam> internal conflicts...
<_ScrappyDoo> I've got lab timers going off every five minutes
* sidtheduck points and switches his AIM
<dante> so was jen's dirty little secret really just that she was in debt? how boring.
<dante> we had her swinging from stripper poles.
<bunksteve> Stupid college loans did her in.
<brooke> is that her dirty little secret
<_ScrappyDoo> i think there's more there
<_BrianC> *whistles innocently*
<Mapmaker> the last official question, after pornoJen
<DavFlamerock> no way is she coming back...???
<Obtusitivity> i liked the nudist named jen in WA state that i emailed.
<_ScrappyDoo> no, it's not *just debt*
<_ScrappyDoo> and the info is there already
<_ScrappyDoo> with a couple small leaps
<sinyx> debt paid off by stripping?
<Sam> is this chat in-game?
* _ScrappyDoo shakes fist at brian
<Mapmaker> no, sam
<WolfHawk> maybe we picked up on it some
<_ScrappyDoo> it was just a throw-away comment in AIM one day
<dante> yea one small leap for a PM... 15 giant leaps for an ignorant player
<bunksteve> Sounds like a Lifetime Made-for-TV movie.
<catherwood> told in flashbacks, with those woowoowoo hand motions
<bunksteve> No, Sam. It isn't.
<_BrianC> spinoff arg: pornoJEN
<_ScrappyDoo> "ha ha yeah, jen's an S&M fan yarharhar"
<Sam> I know, I was kiddin
<_ScrappyDoo> next thing i know "DIRTY LITTLE SECRET"
<DavFlamerock> what was the next Q?
<Mapmaker> so the last Official Question is this: so far we've had some different media: photos and text, primarily; and two events, which ended up being one person each. What might we expect in the future in both media and events?
<Sam> official Q!
<catherwood> "that would be telling"
<_ScrappyDoo> oo oo and potluck dinners
<_BrianC> well, I can answer in general
<WolfHawk> more mudwrestling!
<_BrianC> of some of the things that get talked about
<biff> potgut orgies?
<Mapmaker> go ahead, Brian
<_BrianC> we want you to meet some of the characters in person
<bunksteve> I want to meet them too..
<_BrianC> in some of the places relevant to the story
<WolfHawk> cool cool cool!!!!!
<bunksteve> So I can kick Art in the nuts.
<dante> trip to Lima!
<DavFlamerock> I wanted to meet Marie in SF, but she vanished...
<Mapmaker> any spelunkers here?
<Obtusitivity> "so this is ry'leh, it's nice...colder than i'd thought.."
<missphinx> Harrisonburg, bseeingu!
<_BrianC> and give you chances to choose sides among the shadowy parties
* _ScrappyDoo makes note to get Art protective gear
* jjason crosses his fingers for the guy from Minneapolis
<bunksteve> lol, Scrappy.
<_BrianC> which will help drive the later parts of the story
<Yog_Sothoth> "Love the noneuclidian geometry. Very Martha Stewart."
<DavFlamerock> wait, we get to pick sides? TIGHT
<dante> 'shadowy parties' hrm
<WolfHawk> Very awesome!
<sinyx> Do we all pick the same side or split up?
<bunksteve> Come to the dark side, Dav. We have a jacuzzi and frogurt bar.
* missphinx likes dancing in the dark
<Obtusitivity> i call skins
<Yog_Sothoth> Oho, potential! Two sides, and then the third group of people who won't side with either! ~
<bunksteve> I veto Obs call... just so he'll keep his shirt on.
<DavFlamerock> I'm joining Chorazos personally... jk
<Mapmaker> before we really open the floor
<_BrianC> things aren't ever as simple as white hat black hat are they?
<DavFlamerock> Chor for teh win!
<sinyx> Who has the better health plan?
<Mapmaker> I want to ask the PMs if they have any questions
<jjason> I never liked local reality anyway
<WolfHawk> continuous shades of gray
<Yog_Sothoth> Nope. There's never only two sides. Such is life~
<Mapmaker> so PMs: Any questions?
<_BrianC> Jjason -- that's the t-shirt
<_BrianC> Eldritch Errors: I never liked local reality anyway.
<_BrianC> I think we snuck in our main questions
<Sam> I have one...
<_BrianC> I guess the question I'm surprised you didn't ask
<_BrianC> was how long an interlude was
<DavFlamerock> lol, we shouldn't know!
<_BrianC> I had practiced my "not long" answer
<WolfHawk> good point
<jjason> September 16th?
<Yog_Sothoth> ...I didn't even think to ask that *facepalm.jpg*
<bunksteve> I thought about asking that... but figured we wouldn't get an answer.
<Mapmaker> well, if you have it practiced
<DavFlamerock> September 25th!
<_BrianC> to be practical
<Mapmaker> go ahead
<Obtusitivity> shorter than may is all i ask.
<_BrianC> we want to give 9/11 time to get past and out of people's lives
<_BrianC> it is a difficult time when people get sensitive
<DavFlamerock> I have a finale questione
<_BrianC> especially New Yorkers I know
<brooke> i'm thinking we should hold out a yar brian, what do you think?
<brooke> year, even
<Mapmaker> ok, first Sam then Dav
<bunksteve> Everybody! Attack Brooke!
<brooke> maybe come back next summer?
<jjason> the time of the break was also good for everybody who's returning to college
<_BrianC> yeah, a year ain't long
<Sam> that means vacations?
<sinyx> True, thanks for that
<WolfHawk> better not!
<bunksteve> She's spreading misinformation!
<DavFlamerock> How about December?
<bunksteve> STFU, DAV!
<_BrianC> so what's our questions?
<Yog_Sothoth> October is primo spookytime~
<Mapmaker> Sam, go ahead
<Mapmaker> while the iron's hot!
<catherwood> for me, the fall TV season starting up is killer on my free time
<Sam> Is there any other Art of Heist coming in the future?
<bunksteve> How much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck would chuck wood?
<Yog_Sothoth> Get a TIVO, cather.
<_BrianC> not that I've heard yet, Sam
<_BrianC> Nisha would be fun to dust off again one day
<Mapmaker> oh damn
<bunksteve> That's really up to Audi though, right Brian?
<catherwood> i still have to WATCH everything on the tivo
<biff> badum chee
<Mapmaker> moderator privilege
<Mapmaker> my question
<missphinx> I BET you would like to dust off Nisha
<bunksteve> Or do they not own the rights to the characters?
<_BrianC> yup, it could come back like velure
<Mapmaker> did you guys notice the Audi/GM crash I inserted into the first MUD?
<Obtusitivity> what are some of the unique challenges in attacking a relatively new medium like args? and can we expect to hear from you guys in next years igda white paper?
<brooke> that's brilliant map
<_BrianC> I saw it
<_BrianC> Obtus, that's a complex question.
<Obtusitivity> yeah, no kidding
<_BrianC> I think part of what we're trying to do is play with the expectations.
<bunksteve> You can just write an essay and submit it to us later.
<_BrianC> Brooke and I had a rousing phone debate today
* _brooke cringes
<_BrianC> that ranged from intent to "what is gameness"
<brooke> i was just thinking about that
<catherwood> i missed a meta convo?!
<_BrianC> P2P! OMG!
<brooke> that was a great convo - i almost wish i'd taken notes
<Mapmaker> SPAM ON THE OUTPOST
<Yog_Sothoth> TO ARMS
* Mapmaker watches the flurry of mods
<_BrianC> so I think there are some things to write about, Obtusitivity, I'm just not sure how to slice it off yet
<biff> I have your phonetap logs brooke, I'll send them later
<brooke> cool, thanks biff
<Obtusitivity> and a quick follow-up:
<_BrianC> worth deeper thoughts though, go for it
* sidtheduck kills spam
<Obtusitivity> for someone who's very interested in the "industry" that's coming up with regards to args, how the hell does someone even transition into that sort of thing?
<Sam> good question
<_BrianC> well, I'm an indie advocate.
<bunksteve> You have to be recruited by the Internet Gods, Obs.
<_BrianC> roll up your sleeves and start playing, mostly.
<Obtusitivity> I read the white paper, I've got "game" industry experience, but it doesn't really translate over
<Obtusitivity> ah. good.
<_BrianC> or wait for someone to give you permission
<WolfHawk> *starts writing resume*
<_BrianC> I tend not to ask permission if I don't have to and I thikn that is part of thrill
<brooke> you'd be surprised obs, i think it will translate better than you think it does
<bunksteve> I have a question: Are you the first to attempt an ARG of this size independently?
<_BrianC> hardly, Bunk
<catherwood> define "size"
<_BrianC> Obtus: I think the other thing to keep in mind is none of us know if this stuff is going to work either.
<bunksteve> 2 year arc?
<Mapmaker> define "ARG" and "independently", too
<_BrianC> We get an adrenaline rush from that as well
<catherwood> PxC ran for two years of storyline, right?
<Six> ha Map, good luck
<bunksteve> Independently = without sponsor
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<biff> obt: start spam-cheeeeezzzzzz the ARG
<Sam> Can you give out some rough numbers on how many people played EE?
<catherwood> ahh, i never got to ask my funding question, how is this "self-sustaining"? where is the revenue?
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<_BrianC> haven't crunched the numbers yet, need to Sam
<brooke> cath - that was asked
<catherwood> damn my need for dinner
<_BrianC> funding is from the profit of other projects
<Sam> the money question
<bunksteve> Eleventy-seven billion, Sam... rough estimate.
<brooke> it'll be in the logs
<Six> cather: that'll become aparent with time aparnetly
<Mapmaker> ok, so everyone!!!
<brooke> an easy search will get you there
<catherwood> i'll read the log, if we ever stop so i can save it
<dante> what content/structure-wise would you change from book 1 if you could?
<Mapmaker> before any more questions come up!!!
<bunksteve> too late, Map!
<_BrianC> would have carved a month out of the pacing, dante
<brooke> i'd play with the dreamscape and craigslist a bit differently
<Mapmaker> it is time to clap!!!
<_BrianC> made everything tighter
<Obtusitivity> oooh oooh
<Mapmaker> and thank!!!
* catherwood looks at the clock
<_ScrappyDoo> better pacing, more active doing
* bunksteve stands up and applauds the PM for a job well done (So far)
<brooke> and the pacing definitely!
<DavFlamerock> LAST Q
* jjason claps
<DavFlamerock> Say three words related to the next Book to intrigue and interest me. (I like teasers.)
<Obtusitivity> i have to give you guys a big thumbs up for the freakylinks stuff.
<_BrianC> thanks so much for setting this up guys and for playing with us
<Six> that's 3
* Sam claps the lovely GMD people
<dante> be sure to circle the words in red
* Yog_Sothoth claps~
<_BrianC> some things are purposefully whispered
* sidtheduck starts a SLOW clap
<bunksteve> okra? okrahoma?
* catherwood stomps and whistles in appreciation
<_BrianC> and you guys
<WolfHawk> I like okra
<jjason> where the wind blows faintly through the trees?
<_BrianC> make sure to send us envelopes
<brooke> yeah, can we clap for mapmaker, too
<Yog_Sothoth> Ugh, okra -_-
<Obtusitivity> oh yeah, about that.
<Yog_Sothoth> Oh crap
* missphinx cheers and stomps
<Yog_Sothoth> I have to send out an envelope
<sidtheduck> yay, Mapmaker!
<DavFlamerock> lol, I actually mailed mine earlier today
<bunksteve> Definitely for Map.
<WolfHawk> I did you should have got it today!
<brooke> he did an amazing job of keeping this chat moving
<jjason> I sent my envelope today!
<Obtusitivity> can i flot y'all a fiver andy'all buy your own envelope?
<bunksteve> Great job moderating, Map!
<Yog_Sothoth> bbl, robbiI MEAN GOING TO post office
<brooke> with all sorts of chaos
* Sam takes picture with Brian and Brooke
<_BrianC> thanks Map
* catherwood lights a Bic and sways
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* bunksteve gets Nicko's autograph.
<DavFlamerock> *claps for everybody*